Driving pet hates...

[Overlag]

People who don't use signals exiting a roundabout

People who use the WRONG signal on roundabouts then complain when i pull out on them.

40mph everywhere drivers on country lanes, tail gate me in a 30, but lose me in the NSL sections, then at the next village they are up my exhaust again.

Pretty much EVERYONE on the road annoys me, i really shouldnt have a driving job

 

[Howard]

So many things. I'd be here all morning typing them up.

But the one thing that continually annoys me.. I mean causes me an almost disproportionate amount of anger... Is people not indicating when turning left at a roundabout as I'm looking to join it. Usually mini roundabouts. It's the most selfish, idiotic, moronic, thoughtless behaviour. Just flick the stalk. Grr.

 

[Conscript]

So many things. I'd be here all morning typing them up.

But the one thing that continually annoys me.. I mean causes me an almost disproportionate amount of anger... Is people not indicating when turning left at a roundabout as I'm looking to join it. Usually mini roundabouts. It's the most selfish, idiotic, moronic, thoughtless behaviour. Just flick the stalk. Grr.

Yes, agreed totally.

 

[Diagro]

So many things. I'd be here all morning typing them up.

But the one thing that continually annoys me.. I mean causes me an almost disproportionate amount of anger... Is people not indicating when turning left at a roundabout as I'm looking to join it. Usually mini roundabouts. It's the most selfish, idiotic, moronic, thoughtless behaviour. Just flick the bean. Grr.

Oh I say

 

[Randomface74]

At 60mph, 30 seconds is just over 800 metres. That's half a mile. More than enough time to move left to ensure you aren't impeding traffic flow.
Ironically, you're also causing more lane changes, because everyone behind you wishing to pass will have to move out to overtake you (assuming there's a third lane).

The middle lane tends to be about 70-80mph. Someone wanting to overtake at that speed really should be using lane 3. I think it's not a genuine need to overtake, it's annoyance at having to share the road with other people.

The problem with your understanding of that is the same as the morons on the road.
"Oh that lorry is going slower than me, it's about 30cars away but I can see it... Thus I MUST stay in this lane until I've overtaken it. Oh damn, a car is about 25 cars away now... I best stay in here..."
That mentality is what's wrong. If you can move over into the left lane for at least 30 seconds before having to overtake then do so. Otherwise it's classes as lane hogging.

For argument's sake, lets say the driver moves into lane 1, maybe a couple of others behind them do too, so the gap between lorries has been filled. The cars which were behind them in lane 2 move up, so now there's no gap for them to move back into lane 2 to overtake the lorry ahead. Now what? They're just stuck behind a lorry for god knows how long?? If there's not much traffic about then it'd be okay, but there usually is massive congestion, so this is the way it pans out most of the time. Some people are going to be getting frustrated and taking a really risky lane change back into lane 2.

 

[Conscript]

The middle lane tends to be about 70-80mph. Someone wanting to overtake at that speed really should be using lane 3. I think it's not a genuine need to overtake, it's annoyance at having to share the road with other people.


For argument's sake, lets say the driver moves into lane 1, maybe a couple of others behind them do too, so the gap between lorries has been filled. The cars which were behind them in lane 2 move up, so now there's no gap for them to move back into lane 2 to overtake the lorry ahead. Now what? They're just stuck behind a lorry for god knows how long?? If there's not much traffic about then it'd be okay, but there usually is massive congestion, so this is the way it pans out most of the time. Some people are going to be getting frustrated and taking a really risky lane change back into lane 2.

Click this link:
https://goo.gl/maps/HooMsU6TiTN2

Do you see that gantry far off in the distance, at the far end of the bridge? Just measured it, that's about 800m from the point of view.
You're telling me that if you had just overtaken someone, and the road was clear from there, all the way to that gantry, you wouldn't move left?

Also "Someone wanting to overtake at that speed really should be using lane 3." - no. Lane usage is not dependent on absolute speed. This is an opinion that seems to be shared by too many people, that the left lane is the "slow lane" and the right lane is the "fast lane". Traffic flows much more smoothly and efficiently when people only move right to pass slower traffic, then return to the left.

 

[InvaderGIR]

The middle lane tends to be about 70-80mph. Someone wanting to overtake at that speed really should be using lane 3. I think it's not a genuine need to overtake, it's annoyance at having to share the road with other people.

Generally in my experience most lanes are all below 80 apart from a few outlying people who go well above the limit and lanes 2+ are all overtaking lanes, they are not speed related at all so 'really should be using lane 3' is a completely random and wrong statement.

For argument's sake, lets say the driver moves into lane 1, maybe a couple of others behind them do too, so the gap between lorries has been filled. The cars which were behind them in lane 2 move up, so now there's no gap for them to move back into lane 2 to overtake the lorry ahead. Now what? They're just stuck behind a lorry for god knows how long?? If there's not much traffic about then it'd be okay, but there usually is massive congestion, so this is the way it pans out most of the time. Some people are going to be getting frustrated and taking a really risky lane change back into lane 2.

Then indicate before you're riding the bumper of the slower vehicle, wait for a space and maneuver as you're meant to do. Which is exactly what I do and I can maintain a constant 70mph on most of my journeys on the UK motorway system, despite people like yourself that seem to think lane hogging is a legal and sensible thing to do.

 

[Captain]

30 seconds is an eternity.
police officer told me if it takes longer than 15 seconds to reach the next car (while sitting in the middle lane) you should change into the left hand lane.

worst offenders i find are on the M25.
it was completely dead, i was in lane 1 and the other in lane 3. i moved over while in lane 3 flashed him, he moved into lane 2 for me to overtake and then he moved back into 3. while i ended up in lane 1 once i had overtaken him.

If it was dead, why not just stay in lane 1?

 

[Glanza]

Not legal due to the limit but the I'll drive 40mph everywhere crowd now kids are off school in a morning these drivers are getting to be able to do this more with quieter roads.

 

[Calm]

My rear view mirror.

I'd be a lot happier if I couldn't see what the morons behind me were doing!

 

[Havana_UK]

My biggest pet hate, and I see it a LOT, are the people who can use ONLY the middle lane of the motorway, and can only go as fast as the car in front of them. This means that whilst I'm sat on cruise control at 70mph I'll overtake them in lane 3 whilst they are travelling at ~56mph behind a lorry, then pull back over to lane 1, and then a minute or two later they'll come past me at ~85mph, catch up with some slower traffic and then I'll have to move back out to lane 3, overtake, pull back in then be passed by them again a few minutes later. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum!

People who don't know how to motorway should really stay the **** off of them and leave the rest of us to it!

 

[t-rex]

People who inch forwards at traffic lights. JUST PUT YOUR HANDBRAKE ON. Especially those with start-stop, whose engines come back on about a minute before the light turns green, completely defeating the whole point of the technology.

 

[Randomface74]

Click this link:
https://goo.gl/maps/HooMsU6TiTN2
Do you see that gantry far off in the distance, at the far end of the bridge? Just measured it, that's about 800m from the point of view.
You're telling me that if you had just overtaken someone, and the road was clear from there, all the way to that gantry, you wouldn't move left?

Personally I'd be looking to get into lane 3. Where there's an exit there's usually an entrance and the gaps in lane 1 are going to be needed.
I get your point though, if there wasn't an exit there is room for moving into lane 1 given that amount of traffic there'll easily be a safe opportunity to move back into lane 2.
I was imagining a road with a lot more traffic on it, when I drive on the motorway it's usually about twice as busy as that, with lane 1 full of lorries.

Generally in my experience most lanes are all below 80 apart from a few outlying people who go well above the limit and lanes 2+ are all overtaking lanes, they are not speed related at all so 'really should be using lane 3' is a completely random and wrong statement.

But we're talking about wanting the car in front of you to get out of the way so you can get past. But if you're both doing the same speed, then it's not a valid overtake, it's just wanting someone else to get out of your way. You aren't faster and have no right to make more progress than the car in front.

 

[Jamesyboyjim]

The middle lane tends to be about 70-80mph. Someone wanting to overtake at that speed really should be using lane 3. I think it's not a genuine need to overtake, it's annoyance at having to share the road with other people.


For argument's sake, lets say the driver moves into lane 1, maybe a couple of others behind them do too, so the gap between lorries has been filled. The cars which were behind them in lane 2 move up, so now there's no gap for them to move back into lane 2 to overtake the lorry ahead. Now what? They're just stuck behind a lorry for god knows how long?? If there's not much traffic about then it'd be okay, but there usually is massive congestion, so this is the way it pans out most of the time. Some people are going to be getting frustrated and taking a really risky lane change back into lane 2.

Billy, you are humiliating yourself now. Please take some advanced driving lessons out on the motorway. perhaps an instructor can help you. I'm being serious.

 

[InvaderGIR]

But we're talking about wanting the car in front of you to get out of the way so you can get past. But if you're both doing the same speed, then it's not a valid overtake, it's just wanting someone else to get out of your way. You aren't faster and have no right to make more progress than the car in front.

What are you even on about there? I never said all vehicles are travelling at the same speed? If lane 1 is empty then use it and let others pass you at 70 (or their desired speed over yours) in lanes 2+.

 

[Conscript]

Personally I'd be looking to get into lane 3. Where there's an exit there's usually an entrance and the gaps in lane 1 are going to be needed.
I get your point though, if there wasn't an exit there is room for moving into lane 1 given that amount of traffic there'll easily be a safe opportunity to move back into lane 2.
I was imagining a road with a lot more traffic on it, when I drive on the motorway it's usually about twice as busy as that, with lane 1 full of lorries.

The next slip on is actually about a 1km further on from that gantry due to the junction layout, so not really an issue. Ignoring that though...huh?
So you've just overtaken someone (in lane 1) at that point in the link I gave you. You're now in lane 2 (the middle lane...the left most lane is actually a long off slip, so ignore that for now). There's not another car ahead of you for half a mile, in any lane. It's clear all the way to the gantry. Now you're saying "I'd look to move to lane three" because there might be an on-slip?

You should move left. You've got half a mile of road to make the decision to move out if needed, and to be able to do so safely. And in that half a mile, there's a lot of faster traffic that could pass you from behind without having to move out to lane three to pass. I get that anticipating the situation ahead is important, but it's just as important to anticipate what's going on behind, and moving to outer lanes when there's no need for such a huge distance ahead of you is a very inefficient use of road space.

 

[dr_volki]

If it was dead, why not just stay in lane 1?

undertaking is prohibited (as far as i know ).

 

[InvaderGIR]

undertaking is prohibited (as far as i know ).

Passing on the left is fine (within reason), deliberately moving to a left lane to pass someone and move back to your previous lane ahead of the car you've passed is undertaking and isn't legal.

 

[Semple]

As a passenger I had fun with this the other day.
Saw a guy in a Tesla on his phone so told the wife to get along side him and pointed my phone at him, he saw me and threw his phone down and looked really guilty. Was great fun but also disturbing how many still do it.

Personally i think they should dish out instant 3 year bans for driving while holding onto a mobile. Most carts built in the last 5-7 years have bluetooth functionality to connect the phone to the car, so there's no excuse really.

People STILL don't think they are doing anything wrong when they sit in the middle lane. The amount of people I've passed and shook my head at, only for them to put their hands up and say "what" because they've no idea what a tool they are being frightens me.

You could do with making some signs that you can stick up to say "you **** you're driving in the middle lane".

 

[Randomface74]

What are you even on about there? I never said all vehicles are travelling at the same speed? If lane 1 is empty then use it and let others pass you at 70 (or their desired speed over yours) in lanes 2+.

We're all making assumptions about the state of the road.
For example there's a diagram here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22784983
In that diagram the car is stuck because he moved left on a congested road, he shouldn't have moved left.
If there's someone hogging the middle lane going 60 then I agree with you all, but I think most of the complaints are about people who are still making good time at 70-80.