Taking out a loan for house deposit - Anyone done it?

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The idea being that you pay more initially whilst you get rid of the loan, but thereafter will save on interest over the duration of a 30+ year mortgage. I'm also told that the higher deposit might help negotiate a better interest rate for the mortgage, which strikes me as odd since if anything the loan would make you higher risk.

To clarify I mean a loan in addition to a normal cash deposit.

Anyone done it? opinions?
 
Surely, you could have an additional loan, however wouldn't it just affect the amount you could borrow?

This, the mortgage lender will have an opinion both on the amount you borrow and your monthly repayments. Lenders don't tend to like loans as deposits which is why they ask for parents etc who help with deposits to sign a document stating that the money is a gift that has been given freely. I'd imagine their concern is a) the borrower taking on unmanageable debt and b) the potential for a lender to seek a charge on the property.

As a slight aside my wife and I had £1k on cards when we applied for a motgage, our offer was conditional on us paying that off before completion. Chances are they wouldn't have checked but it was definitely written in to the offer.
 
Surely, you could have an additional loan, however wouldn't it just affect the amount you could borrow?

Correct. If you have a loan already then it goes against the total you can borrow so its counter intuitive.

I'd imagine the amount I'm able to borrow far exceeds the amount I intend to borrow, so a limitation there has next to no impact for me.
 
I'd imagine the amount I'm able to borrow far exceeds the amount I intend to borrow, so a limitation there has next to no impact for me.
Why not save up a bigger deposit then and make your over all mortgage cheaper to pay off each month or lower the amount of time you are paying it off. If you are able to borrow a lot more than the mortgage amount it must mean your earnings easily out weight the percentage the mortgage would cost you each month...

Apologies if this doesnt seem to make sense but my mortgage completely maxed me out in regards to what i could borrow against what i earn. The amount you borrow for a mortgage cannot exceed 5 times your annual earnings right?
 
I'd imagine the amount I'm able to borrow far exceeds the amount I intend to borrow, so a limitation there has next to no impact for me.

Then it might work. However it could affect their decision on even giving you the mortage if you have another large and unsecured loan.
 
I'd imagine the amount I'm able to borrow far exceeds the amount I intend to borrow, so a limitation there has next to no impact for me.

Might be worth having a chat with an advisor or your preferred lender to see what their opinion is. As somebody mentioned above you'll probably be alright on the maximum borrowing and affordability side, it's just whether or not they would have an issue with the house being 100% financed.
 
Most lender's will want the deposit to be sourced from savings/non conditional gift.

If they do allow it , they will factor in the costs of any third party loan which will affect affordability but it depends if you have a high income that side of things might be fine, but just based on lending policy most lender's don't allow it.

Also if you try and lie to the mortgage lender out the source, they will probably find out, and if not, the solicitors then verify the source of the deposit for anti money laundering regulations and have to inform the lender.

Basically not a good idea.
 
Just to add to the above also if you have any money gifted by family/extended family/friends you must declare everything
 
No chance I tried it years ago when they were handing money out like confetti, had to get a 100% mortgage in the end.

These days not a chance in hell for a deposit.

Idea as the is always away.

Get a family member to borrow the deposit and let them pay the loan and you pay them of course.

Then say it was a gift to help you get a house.

Even better if said family member already has the money in savings, if they go fishing then the family member can say the loan was for home improvements.;)
 
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AFAIK most mortgage companies wouldn't accept this, what would happen if your house went into negative equity and you defaulted?

Even if you went down the undeclared route, you'd have to keep it in your account for at least 3 cleared months, at which point you'd be incurring a sizeable interest. If you can't save the 5% min for a deposit, then you're probably not in the right place to purchase a property.
 
Aren't mortgage interest rates way lower than any loan? You can overpay too if you want to clear the interest charges quicker.
 
Santander allows this. I almost did this instead of using HtB but other factors made me go down the HtB route instead. Speak to a mortgage adviser that knows their stuff instead of asking on here :)
 
You'd need to see an adviser - if you're a FTB, you might find that you will have to clear the loan, before you get a mortgage; that's what me and the Wife had to do back in 2013 - had to have a completely clean slate before the mortgage would approve!
 
Santander allows this. I almost did this instead of using HtB but other factors made me go down the HtB route instead. Speak to a mortgage adviser that knows their stuff instead of asking on here :)

Are you suggesting that the denizens of GD aren't capable of providing in depth financial and legal advice to the same level as a paid professional. You sir are showing a disturbing lack of faith. :D
 
It really does depend on how much you want to borrow, what LTV your would be getting with the loan and without the loan and then comparing the interest rate savings vs costs of the loan, vs overpaying a higher interest rate mortgage to the same value of a loan.

You really would need to get a low interest rate loan, and also drop a decent amount of interest on the mortgage to save any considerable amount.

More detail required to provide a full answer.
 
Aren't mortgage interest rates way lower than any loan? You can overpay too if you want to clear the interest charges quicker.
They are lower, but you are paying that interest rate on a larger amount.

For example interest rates looking at 5 year fixed mortgage products based on a 20 year amortisation period, mortgages @ 90% LTV are around 2.4%, but on mortgages @ 80% LTV they are around 2%.

Loans for £10k can be obtained @ 3.5%.

3.5% on £10k over a 5 year repayment profile costs £182 per month to repay for a total interest charge of £913.

Keeping it simple and using a £100k purchase price, an 80% LTV mortgage with a 2% interest rate would cost £405 per month in the same 5 year period cost £7,169 in interest.

Total monthly payment £587
Total interest paid: £8,082
Total debt after 5 years: £62,890.

Now comparing against a 90% LTV mortgage at 2.4% interest.

The monthly cost of the mortgage is £472, but lets overpay so that the total monthly payment is the same as the loan example above.

Total monthly Payment: £587
Total interest paid: £9,297
Total debt after 5 years: £64,047.


In this example, paying 0.4% extra on £90k costs more then paying 3.5% on £10k over the same period of time.

Obviously the amount the OP needs to borrow to drop the LTV % compared against the loan rate that can be obtained is a massive driver, and then factoring in that personal loans tend to cap out at £25k, and often larger amounts come with higher interest rates.

More detail required to provide a clearer answer.
 
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