Or good motherboard. It should be much less of an issue for an enthusiast.
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Or good motherboard. It should be much less of an issue for an enthusiast.
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Me out of touch, you just said Intel have a long way to go and need to bring forth the challenge to amd when intel is the current core for core leader in performance after being at the top for the best part of 10 years, that is just delusional.
If we are talking benchmarks then i'd put my money on Intel winning here on all tests barring perhaps high end tr4 for multicore workloads.
If by saying "the market is much bigger than gaming'" you mean your enthusiasm has an emphasis on multicore workloads, then why are you here trying to wind people up with nothing to offer factually and not instead on some TR4 or HEDT extreme platform thread where you can indulge and converse about all the positives in the area that does it for you in terms of you being a pc 'enthusiast'? Instead you come on a dedicated mainstream intel thread.
You do know your 1800x will no longer have any more cores than the i9 mainstream has and will also have lesser ipc and a much lower oc headroom whilst running over 1ghz less on all 8 cores and will still suffer with memory issues 3000mhz or above. Well i guess all this means Intel better take the fight to amd and are a long way from competing, they better lower their prices to £30 a core because of all this.... Dear me!
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Also have to say great value for many, looks a real top performer and one that offers so much for the price, i even considered this as well.
No shame in amd, amd have a lot to offer and intel is bad in terms of value for your cash. Amd also do very well for multicore workloads and can obviously still game reasonably well. The 2700x is a very good cpu.
Intel have done very little over the past ten years. It got so bad people (me) bought used Xeons for desktop tasks. It's sad people can't just talk about hardware (the good and bad) without some halfwitt fanboy baying for an argument to try and get one over on some because they lost an argument months ago. That's what this attempted onslaught boils down too really. If what I've said or the course of this ermm discussion "winds you" up then thats your problem. Sorry.
For clarity I probably should mention that the system in my sig is one of many.
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Actually jigga and gavin will work together as lead directors for the next big star wars movie!
Coming to a cinema near you and later available as a digital download in high quality SVCD format once intel’s 10nm Ice Lake launches! 
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What I'd like to see from Intel is them start fixing the problems they have the best they can, but we have to be realistic about what can actually be fixed. Improvements to the ring bus and dual channel memory or even quad channel would be a good point. I reckon they could still deliver that at reduced price too.
Actually jigga and gavin will work together as lead directors for the next big star wars movie!
Coming to a cinema near you and later available as a digital download in high quality SVCD format once intel’s 10nm Ice Lake launches!
I have one rule in my firm. No ********* so I don't think that would workout
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Amd need to be careful, someone may come from out of the woodwork with a 256 core 512 thread cpu running at a max oc of 10mhz per core for £9.99.... that will really make Amd worry and quake in their boots, they may have to drop prices to 9p per core to really take it to them to even compete for the best performance crown (just value for money, and multicore performance) if not, that could really spell the end for Amd.
I hope Jigga walks or bikes to work and doesnt have a car (no matter how far it is) becuase the savings on distance travelled per pound spent means its automatically better in absolutely every aspect not to have a car!
I hope Jigga walks or bikes to work and doesnt have a car (no matter how far it is) becuase the savings on distance travelled per pound spent means its automatically better in absolutely every aspect not to have a car!
Sadly there are too many false comparisons in PC hardware. The only one that matters is what is the best performance for a price point. Almost everyone is price sensitive. Manufacturers and retailers all prioritise this, the web is full of price comparison sites.
The only people who don't care are lottery winners and Top Trump fans
The only people who don't care are lottery winners and Top Trump fans
I've got a few cars Jamie. Picking a new one up next weekend too. I fly a lot TBH.
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evidence = none, an ounce of concrete backing = none, substance beyond blinkered denial and total delusion = none.
LOL AMD product page is your friend.
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Is this a slight indication you're admitting Amd has an issue that indeed requires extra money in order to fix a flaw out of the box, making it a performance hit in terms of value for money? (what is the most important performance benchmark to you)
Sadly there are too many false comparisons in PC hardware. The only one that matters is what is the best performance for a price point. Almost everyone is price sensitive. Manufacturers and retailers all prioritise this, the web is full of price comparison sites.
The only people who don't care are lottery winners and Top Trump fans
It's seems that way. Is benchmarking a game on fresh install of windows with nothing other than games installed a good indication of real world performance? It's not even a test of the CPU.
Shock horror a new CPU and chipset have problems. Who would have thought that possible...
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Ok, that needs a bit of elaboration. I can see some decent value for money processors there, sure.. i can see a lot will be good bang for buck (especially in multicore workloads) but i cant see anything that offers chart topping performance (outside of value) so i guess its kind of self explanantory as to why they are cheaper....your point? care to eleborate further?
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Is 18 months still considered new? The ryzen threads still have their fair share of people not being able to hit 3200 despite having bdie memory.
I've had zero problems over the last 18 months. That's with Bdie, Hynix, Micron and other memory that was the cheapest I could find on various boards and configurations. I'm sure some people do have problems though, very serious ones...
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I think this has to be (performance per watt) the total market leader in terms of chart topping contradiction.
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You might want to share some of those settings to help others out then.
10k posts and nothing decent in any of them.