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For a reference hot blower card? Between the two it's a 1080ti anyday. The 2080 doesn't have the grunt in RTX to make it worth the jump at all.I don't get that. New or used? I understand those with 1080 Ti's keeping them and not upgrading but I'd rather just spend £150 (or less) more to get a 2080 now if buying new. It's faster, in some cases will be a lot faster, and generally all round improved tech. 1080 ti would be more appealing new at £500.
Well to be fair we don't know what the RTX bit brings yet.
Still, for that kind of money people should rightfully expect the kind of performance jump like the 8800GTX over the 7900GTX with like 80-90% jump in performance:
No, vs a FE edition. Agree, I wouldn't buy a blower card now. The FE 2080 has much better future potential than the 1080 Ti. Wolftenstein 2 for example shows a 40% increase in performance over the 1080 Ti at 1440P. If that's indicative (and I appreciate it's an "IF"), future games will probably have the 2080 well ahead. Seems to be as fast as in most cases but with the potential to be well ahead.
According to J2C's review the 2080ti is only that 25%+ faster than a reference 1080ti, the gap is much closer with AIB 1080ti's which means you won't be getting a 25%+ increase over your Titan Xp. Not unless Nvidia boost performance noticeable via drivers (NB: this type of thing has been done before).
. I'll look at his review later to be fair tho.And according to TPU the average is 39% increase between 1080ti and 2080ti FE and they provided benches for 23 titles - so it is a case of who do you want to believe...
Where are you seeing +40% for the 2080 over the 1080 Ti in Wolfenstein II? I think you've confused 2080 results with 2080 Ti ones. TechSpot's results put it about 10% faster at 1440p, with the Ti being 40% faster.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1701-geforce-rtx-2080/page3.html
. when new games hit the market...instead people get a mere 30% average increase in performance over the 1080ti
A few keep justifying their purchase going on and on about Ray-tracing and DLSS, but we all know (most probably those individuals as well) by the time it is (or if) widely adapted and used by games, the 2080ti would already be quite dated and aged, and Nvidia would probably already be on 4000 series and those guys would definitely buy a 4080ti then, and never really frequently use the Ray-tracing and DLSS on the 2080ti in games.
According to TPU it's a 23.5% increase at 1080p, 33% at 1440p and 39% at 4K which on paper is impressive, however you have to remember that firstly their numbers always favour new cards (as they don't exclude synthetic tests from the average and they show bigger differences than the games) and secondly that this is comparing vs reference 1080ti.
The 39% is across games not synthetic (if it happens to be the same including synthetic that is coincidence, I did the calculations based on the 23 games they had in the review). And it should be compared against reference - to compare it against non-reference is not a like for like comparison.
