Police statements, why do they dislike you writing it yourself?

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I was asked to make a witness statement at a police station about an incident I had witnessed. I attended and a general conversation ensued about what I had and had not seen and heard. The officer then asked for a written statement. He was somewhat perplexed when I asked for the form and got my pen out, and said he had to write it. I declined the offer and told him I was perfectly capable of putting a coherent and legible statement of what I had seen, where and when on a sheet of paper. He reluctantly conceded then started saying things like "I wouldn't put it like that", or "Are you sure you didn't see X?". In the end I became annoyed and told him he was free to write what the hell he liked on his own statement, but as this was MY statement I would express it as I saw fit. Ended up wishing I hadn't got involved, total PITA experience. Is this normal practice for them these days? The whole thing got off to an uninspiring start as he didn't know the day's date without referring to his phone ;)
 
I can only assume that they at least know the level of detail to make a statement *worthy*.

Had they left all this to the general public to write up, i imagine they'd have some statements where it would be hard to differentiate between a human being and a cartoon character.
 
I take it you don't deal with the general public much :p it is probably far quicker, more efficient and less of a waste of everyone's time for them to write it themselves in general.
 
This seems like a reasonable question to have asked the officer at the time. You seemed to be able to express yourself with him on other matters, so why not this?
 
Statements of Witness need to be written in a certain way. The likes of ADVOCATE and Points to Prove/Disprove need to be included
 
I'm not sure why you would get all uppity about it? Pretty obvious they're just doing their job and you'd presume they'd know how these things work in the court of law. You have to read over what they write and sign the declaration anyway.
 
When I last had to give a statement I asked the same question. I was told that it was because they'd write it in a way which (in theory) couldn't be considered ambiguous and therefore twisted to mean something else. A layman writing a statement could have wording which could be picked up and mis-interpreted.
 
He reluctantly conceded then started saying things like "I wouldn't put it like that", or "Are you sure you didn't see X?".

Statement by Chris Wilson

...That's when the bint started kicking off. Tensions were high so we all kept an eye on the foreign fellas in the room for the obvious. We heard the sound of someone falling down in the other room but we just assumed it was one of the more effeminate types fainting for attention as they do...

Policeman: Errr... i wouldn't put it like that

Seems like a skit from Harry Enfield and Chums to me :D
 
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When I last had to give a statement I asked the same question. I was told that it was because they'd write it in a way which (in theory) couldn't be considered ambiguous and therefore twisted to mean something else. A layman writing a statement could have wording which could be picked up and mis-interpreted.
That's what I was told when I had to give one as well. I can easily believe it as well. In my line of work we have to be careful how we word things as taken the wrong way can have consequences.

For instance the other day writing an ECN I wanted a screw replacing for a stronger one, for a few reasons. Wrong wording and the customer would be asking why isn't the original strong enough.
 
My annoyance was had I conceded and let him write the thing he could easily have added inflection to suit any agenda he may have wished to create. A statement written FOR someone less able to identify wording that might infer something in a way contrary to what actually happened, or adding or removing gravitas is no longer impartial or accurate. Am I saying I don't trust the cops to write a totally impartial statement based upon what someone of poor education might relate to them? Probably, yes ;)
 
lol police love it when you tell them how to do their job. Reaaaaally love it.


Lawyers like Nick Freeman have made a small fortune from officers who do not know their jobs or are too idle or sloppy to carry it out effectively. Motoring cases have been thrown out of court hundreds of times not by his supreme advocacy but because some officer has failed to follow procedure and left a door open that his meticulous reading and knowledge has discovered. He freely admits it is 90% finding what errors have been made and using them to his clients' advantage.

EDIT: I have just spotted a prime example in today's Telegraph, an obviously costly for the police to prosecute case dismissed due to late presentation of the NIP:


David Beckham has swerved a speeding fine after his lawyer, dubbed "Mr Loophole", successfully argued that despite driving too fast, the notice of prosecution was defective.
The former England football captain had been caught driving a Bentley at 59mph in a 40mph zone, and although the speed was not contested, the fact that the notice arrived late meant that Beckham could not be convicted.
Summing up, his lawyer Nick Freeman said: “He is accepting he is driving, he is accepting the speed. That isn’t in any way in dispute. It may cause some disquiet but that is a matter for Parliament. It is a statutory requirement and if the law needs to be changed then so be it.”
The celebrity lawyer had earlier failed in a bid to get the case completely thrown out on the technicality when District Judge Barbara Barnes ruled there was a case to answer.
But having heard the evidence, she ruled: “In this particular case and on the evidence I have heard, what I find is that it is more likely than not that the notice was not served on the registered keeper of the vehicle in time.”
The incident took place on January 23 this year, just after 5:30pm on the A40 in Paddington, not far from the 43-year-old’s Holland Park home, Wimbledon Magistrates court heard.
Mr Freeman, who has previously represented Sir Alex Ferguson, Colin Montgomerie and Ranulph Fiennes has gained a reputation as ‘Mr Loophole’ after fine combing cases and finding errors by the state.
Instances of successful cases include noticing spelling mistakes on names, late serving of notices and his client needing to speed in order to use the toilet (Sir Alex Ferguson).
The case against Beckham, which lasted more than five hours, came down to proving when the notice of intended prosecution was sent and received.
The law states that an NIP must be received within 14 days of the offence being committed. Beckham’s lawyer said that it arrived on February 7, which was 15 days after the offence and was therefore invalid.
Three prosecution witnesses were called from the Metropolitan Police, who worked in IT, the post room and the camera processing services team.
Between them, they could not successfully argue beyond reasonable doubt that the letter would have been sent in time to be received in time.
It was noted that on February, 3487 NIPs were sent out.
The defence called two witnesses, a legal assistant and the woman in charge of the post room at Bentley’s Crewe offices who have over four decades’ work at the car company between them.
Colette Hollies, the legal assistant, said she recalled opening the notice of intended prosecution on February 7 because it was the same car and the same driver as an NIP received the week before.
This is to say that Beckham was contacted about being the driver of a speeding vehicle in an incident one day before the one in court today. It is unknown what the outcome of that case was.
“It isn’t every day that you get a Bentley being driven by David Beckham which prima facie is being driven too fast,” said Mr Freeman.
Freeman argued that the Bentley post system was efficient and that the first letter arrived on time, but the second letter arrived late and that was not the fault of Bentley or his client.
 
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My annoyance was had I conceded and let him write the thing he could easily have added inflection to suit any agenda he may have wished to create. A statement written FOR someone less able to identify wording that might infer something in a way contrary to what actually happened, or adding or removing gravitas is no longer impartial or accurate. Am I saying I don't trust the cops to write a totally impartial statement based upon what someone of poor education might relate to them? Probably, yes ;)

You do realise you get to read it after and then have to sign it. So he can't just make stuff up, not happy with the way he wrote it, don't sign it and ask for changes.
 
I write them in behalf of my employer quite regularly and they do need to be written in a certain way. Facts only, no assumptions and definitely no anecdotes from the locals in the pub.
 
Dont they let you read over what they’ve written and then you ‘sign it off’?

I’d imagine it’d be a right pantomime if everyone wrote their own... imagine the laughs!
 
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