Been sold a mined on graphics card on the bay

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So iv been sold a mined on graphics card on the bay.


The listing description was :-

Nvidia Geforce Palit GTX 1070 8GB Jetstream

9 weeks old. In as new, perfect condition.

Sent by fully insured Royal Mail Special Delivery (next day service).

The seller admitant he has acted within the eBay rules of. Selling the rules state that the listing must be clear accurate and honest.

My opinion of it is that the seller has hidden the fact that the graphics card has been mined on and has not been clear accurate and honest with the buyer(me). What's everyone else's though on this?
 
Have you actual proof that it's been "mined" on?

eBay tend to side with buyers regardless of circumstances so I'm sure if you opened a case you'd probably win.
 
I know because of the performance is drastically low but not only that the buyer told me when I contacted them ....

QUOTE from. Seller :-

Hi I'm sorry you are not happy with the card. It has been used for mining, for 9 weeks. I did not say in the description what it had been used for so the description is correct. Whilst in operation it was used in a dust free environment and was not heavily overclocked. Under eBay rules I am not obliged to refund you, because the card is as described. However, I want you to be happy with your purchase so if it's not working as expected and you want to return it for a refund that's fine, but it will be minus postage costs. If you still want to return it let me know.
 
Even if it had been mined on, mining has no bearing on a physical "as new" condition.

Seems a bit of an overreaction. Presumably it was cheap enough in the first place that you should have expected it to be a card from a mining rig (arguably any "cheap" 1060/1070/rx570/rx580/vega is likely to be ex-mining at this point)


CAPS_LOCK said:
I know because of the performance is drastically low but not only that the buyer told me when I contacted them ....
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Mining doesn't change the performance of a card? :confused:
 
The cooler may be shagged. Check temps to see if it's throttling. As said, no matter what you do with a card, it should remain the same performance wise from day zero til it dies. They don't "wear out"
 
Roar87 said:
I'd basically assume it had been mined on if I bought it off eBay
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This.

You are just better off assuming every card you will buy has potentially been mined on. I even assume it on OCUK mm although generally posters here are honest and it never stops something being sold mined or not.

If it has been mined on it's not the end of the world either...
 
Even it it were mined on 9 weeks doesn't seem enough to degrade performance/damage it in any way, otherwise miners would be replacing their cards every 2 months.

What benches/tests have you run?
 
Run GPU-Z on the card, that will show if the clock speeds are correct for the card.

The only thing that could cause ' a drastically low performance ' would be a custom bios underclock flash.
 
Raikiri said:
Even it it were mined on 9 weeks doesn't seem enough to degrade performance/damage it in any way, otherwise miners would be replacing their cards every 2 months.

What benches/tests have you run?
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Most of the times these days they undervolt cards / run them cooler.

Miners try to conserve electricity and get the best clocks at a lower voltage. So if it has been mined on it's unlikely it's been hammered.
 
It's 9 weeks old - even mining for 9 weeks solid it's barely been run in.

Does it work?
How do you know that the "performance is drastically low" - compare to what? How did you come up with that statement?

I think it's very generous of him offering you a refund minus postage.
 
What do you mean by performance is drastically low?

If he hadn't admitted it was used for mining I'm not sure how would you know, like Armageus says it doesn't affect long term performance unless the heatsink is clogged up or the fans have been damaged through heavy use.
 
I'm going to turn this back on you. Did you ask before bidding if the card has been used for mining? If this is such a big issue why did you not think to ask before buying it?

If it's indeed 9 weeks old and in perfect condition then the seller has described it properly. If you were buying a car would you throw your toys out of the pram if you subsequently found it had done a track day?

I really hope eBay sides with the seller. There are so many instances of people taking no responsibility for their actions and the seller ending up out of pocket/having to deal with an issue just because everyone knows eBay is so heavily weighted to the buyer.
 
booyaka said:
It's 9 weeks old - even mining for 9 weeks solid it's barely been run in.

Does it work?
How do you know that the "performance is drastically low" - compare to what? How did you come up with that statement?

I think it's very generous of him offering you a refund minus postage.
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Looks like this is the reason why: http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11095401

However that seems to be reporting incorrectly, I have a similar system and don't score much higher.

OP results:

DX9
Lighting 301
Reflection 276
Parallax 292
92% 290 fps

DX10
MRender 192
mavity 268
Splatting 205
95% 222 fps

Mine:

DX9
Lighting 327
Reflection 289
Parallax 335
102% 317 fps

DX10
MRender 207
mavity 310
Splatting 237
108% 251 fps

Looking at OPs results there's other inconsistencies like his SSD getting 1.5GB/s when it says it's an 840 128gb, unless it's an NVMe drive?

Edit: OP has an 8400, 16GB RAM, 1070 - I have a 2600, 16GB RAM and a 1070
 
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