AMD's answer to RTX - 7nm Vega

Stanners · 4 Oct 2018 at 15:14

Let’s leave it here before people get carried away.

melmac · 4 Oct 2018 at 15:30

Paladine said:
7nm Vega is not midrange, it is their flagship.

7nm Vega isn't their flagship card. It's a professional card not even aimed at gamers at all.

Sargatanas2511 · 4 Oct 2018 at 15:58

Competition is a very good thing, regardless of personal feeling or bias. Any one company dominating any one market is not a good thing for anyone and everyone should be hoping for AMD and even Intel to get in on the act of competing with Nvidia asap.

Paladine · 4 Oct 2018 at 16:01

Sargatanas2511 said:
Competition is a very good thing, regardless of personal feeling or bias. Any one company dominating any one market is not a good thing for anyone and everyone should be hoping for AMD and even Intel to get in on the act of competing with Nvidia asap.

Oh I am definitely hoping for it - I would love AMD and Intel to compete - I just don't see it happening in the next 3-5 years.

Gregster · 4 Oct 2018 at 16:01

String said:
Wow, that's poor Greg. If I remember correctly, you ordered directly from Nvidia on announcement day? Do you mind me asking, did they take the funds at time of pre-order?

Nah, ordered the MSI trio

Blackjack Davy · 4 Oct 2018 at 16:09

Sargatanas2511 said:
The X800 series was good, the X1900 series was very good, the 3870 was a good mid range card, the 4870, 5870 and 7970 were all fantastic.

I'll have you know X800XT was the fastest card out there in its time and I had one!

Paladine said:
Oh I am definitely hoping for it - I would love AMD and Intel to compete - I just don't see it happening in the next 3-5 years.

Why would they? Even when I had an R9 390 it had 8gb when its rival the gtx 970 only had 3.5 was slower in most tests and yet they still outsold the 390 by 10:1 according something Gibbo said once. Its not numbers that are sustainable and I wouldn't be surprised if they never bother releasing a mid to high end card again and I wouldn't blame them if they did. Intel knows the same its a closed market.

james.miller · 4 Oct 2018 at 16:14

X800gto2 was a budget monster :cool:

LePhuronn · 4 Oct 2018 at 16:29

Paladine said:
7nm Vega is not midrange, it is their flagship.

Vega 20 is never going to be a gaming card either. Which is why this entire topic is fud.

Lokken86 · 4 Oct 2018 at 18:33

james.miller said:
X800gto2 was a budget monster

Unlocked pipelines and overclocked to turn it into a fully fledged x850xt platinum ed

Dicehunter · 5 Oct 2018 at 08:34

Can't see a 7nm Vega being released outside of the professional space, It'll only be marginally faster than a 14nm Vega going by current information, I reckon the next card we will see to replace Vega 64 will be Navi and not just a simple Vega refresh.

TNA · 5 Oct 2018 at 09:47

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Saw this on the CPU forum - saw people ditching perfectly good Haswell setups for games where Ryzen wouldn't be a massive upgrade and then started moaning at AMD for months.

If they had done their own basic research it would not have been the cleverest thing to do - I even told them to stay put. Oh well.

Lol. That is why I still have my 4770K which eats through games at 4.7GHz

Upgrading to Ryzen with gaming in mind would be silly. Especially as a 4K gamer. I hardly ever see CPU usage above 50% anyway. Only game I played that I saw it high was Ashes of a Singularity Escalation.

The first CPU’s that I may genuinely consider are Zen 2 7nm or Intel 10th generation if it is actually 10nm. Hell, I may even skip them if prices silly, as I am not even sure it would make much difference for me apart from benchmarks which I hardly ever do anymore. I may wait until AMD release their AM5 platform. That way not only do I get new features on that, but as they last so long, I can upgrade the CPU only later down the road if I fancy.

Dicehunter said:
Can't see a 7nm Vega being released outside of the professional space, It'll only be marginally faster than a 14nm Vega going by current information, I reckon the next card we will see to replace Vega 64 will be Navi and not just a simple Vega refresh.

Agreed. But what I want to really see from AMD is finally getting away from GCN with something brand new.

LePhuronn · 5 Oct 2018 at 10:50

TNA said:
But what I want to really see from AMD is finally getting away from GCN with something brand new.

That's Arcturus in 2020

Sargatanas2511 · 5 Oct 2018 at 12:36

LePhuronn said:
That's Arcturus in 2020

I am pretty sure Navi is not GCN either.

LePhuronn · 5 Oct 2018 at 13:03

Sargatanas2511 said:
I am pretty sure Navi is not GCN either.

It's the last GCN if I remember correctly

Freddie1980 · 5 Oct 2018 at 13:38

james.miller said:
X800gto2 was a budget monster

Back in the day when you could get a mid range video cards for £150 whereas today you need to speed upwards of £800.

h4rm0ny · 5 Oct 2018 at 13:58

opethdisciple said:
I looked for a thread to post this in but didn't find anything applicable.

Thought this video was worth posting.

Good info from about 9min onwards.

If this is true might be worth hanging on as should lower the prices of the 2000 series.

Why do people have to use text-to-speech for their videos? Even if you don't have a good speaking voice, it would be better than this.

Gerard · 5 Oct 2018 at 15:48

Freddie1980 said:
Back in the day when you could get a mid range video cards for £150 whereas today you need to speed upwards of £800.

Radeon 8500 LE with the pencil mod to make it a full fledged 8500

It's funny even looking back at images of gpus then, the heatsink and fan was tiny compared to what we have today, now heatsinks and fans are the majority of the bulk of the card.

Nasher · 5 Oct 2018 at 15:56

PCs were almost completely silent back in the day

I actually found a 28.8k modem the other day, made in the UK. The PCB was tough as nails lol

pandem0nium · 5 Oct 2018 at 16:03

Freddie1980 said:
Back in the day when you could get a mid range video cards for £150 whereas today you need to speed upwards of £800.

My HD 7850 was a great value mid-range card. Bought the cheapest 2GB VTX model, slapped on a Gelid aftermarket cooler, flashed the bios and it overclocked like a champ.

Gerard · 5 Oct 2018 at 16:04

Nasher said:
PCs were almost completely silent back in the day

Yup, we didn't have these hungry gpu's gobbling up power and needing to have multiple fans and vapour chambers to keep cool. Even attaching a power cable to a gpu was a rarity, first one that had that was the voodoo 5 5500, but even then its heatsinks and fans were tiny and inaudible. Pc cases these days are designed like wind tunnels, back then 1-2 fans on cases was about all you seen, sometimes only one and that was part of the psu.