Tories might not deliver manifesto income tax pledge

Randomface74 · 10 Oct 2018 at 11:22

Anyone who voted Tory based on their income tax pledge (like I did) will want to be aware of this.

You may want to write to your MP to let them know your thoughts on this matter.

Chancellor may ditch manifesto pledge to cut income tax for millions in bid to find £20billion for the NHS promised by Theresa May

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...tml?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490

Hades · 10 Oct 2018 at 11:27

I am not in favour of tax rises. But equally I am OK with no tax cuts if the money is definitely used for the NHS.

Roar87 · 10 Oct 2018 at 11:36

I voted Tory but I think the NHS needs more money

Mr.E. · 10 Oct 2018 at 11:40

So, you only voted Conservative because the personal allowance was raising a couple of thousand pounds ? That's a couple of quid a week :confused:

*edit, I've just checked. For the lower rate it's only an £500 increase !

Fubsy · 10 Oct 2018 at 11:42

I think most voters, especially centre-right Conservative voters* will be level headed enough to understand the need for breaking of this promise. However as long as it's not just flogging the money at it to plug ever growing holes without doing hard work to solve problems before they require mountains of cash I'm always going to be fine with more money available for health and social care.

I'm more interested in 5 years time how people will react when they can't have the world for free.

*there will be A LOT that will hate this, so it's going to hurt for them, but who do they have to vote for in protest?

Randomface74 · 10 Oct 2018 at 11:45

Mr.E. said:
So, you only voted Conservative because the personal allowance was raising a couple of thousand pounds ? That's a couple of quid a week

and the higher rate bracket too.
It was worth a few grand over the tory's time in govt, and even more if the next govt didn't just revert it.

chroniclard · 10 Oct 2018 at 11:46

Cant possibly have tax cuts with Brexit, need to raise taxes.

ttaskmaster · 10 Oct 2018 at 11:53

Roar87 said:
I voted Tory but I think the NHS needs more money

No.
It needs better money management and a massive cull of expensive, pointless managers.

Fubsy said:
I'm more interested in 5 years time how people will react when they can't have the world for free.

Oh, we can... well, most of us, anyway. We just have to vote Labour and they'll tax the Rich to pay for everything....!!

Hades · 10 Oct 2018 at 11:55

ttaskmaster said:
No.
It needs better money management and a massive cull of expensive, pointless managers.

Oh, we can... well, most of us, anyway. We just have to vote Labour and they'll tax the Rich to pay for everything....!!

I thought Labour had a magic money tree?

Fubsy · 10 Oct 2018 at 11:59

ttaskmaster said:
Oh, we can... well, most of us, anyway. We just have to vote Labour and they'll tax the Rich to pay for everything....!!

That's as simple as Brexit, no variables at all.

Hades said:
I thought Labour had a magic money tree?

They do, so do any government. We all provided the fruit for them to pick clean.

FortuitousFluke · 10 Oct 2018 at 12:04

It's okay though because this is the end to austerity. We did it guys! Right?......Right?

Hades · 10 Oct 2018 at 12:07

FortuitousFluke said:
It's okay though because this is the end to austerity. We did it guys! Right?......Right?

yes, exactly! No more boom and bust!

Freakbro · 10 Oct 2018 at 12:10

Shock horror as political party reneges on manifesto promise.

I mean come on, after the "We have no intention of raising VAT" promise then immediately raising VAT when they got in, I'm not sure why anyone believes anything they say during election time again

Roar87 · 10 Oct 2018 at 12:10

ttaskmaster said:
No.
It needs better money management and a massive cull of expensive, pointless managers.

I don't think more money and the above are mutually exclusive

ttaskmaster · 10 Oct 2018 at 12:22

Fubsy said:
That's as simple as Brexit, no variables at all.

Ah yes, raarrrgh, Brexit. I don't want some unelected elite in Brussels running my life. I don't even understand what this means and the Brexiteers haven't actually come up with a plan for what we'll do afterwards, but I'll vote for them anyway, because Europe.
Yeah......

Fubsy said:
They do, so do any government. We all provided the fruit for them to pick clean.

Labour was wanting to spend more fruit than they had trees though, and before the trees had even flowered.

Roar87 said:
I don't think more money and the above are mutually exclusive

Not entirely, no. The above would make better use of the existing money by freeing up a lot of what's being wasted, by management, on management.

FishFluff · 10 Oct 2018 at 12:39

ttaskmaster said:
No.
It needs better money management and a massive cull of expensive, pointless managers.

I'm going to go ahead and say that you have zero idea how the NHS works if you think it has too many 'expensive, pointless managers'.

https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/health-and-social-care-bill/mythbusters/nhs-managers

Kronos · 10 Oct 2018 at 12:43

Anyone know why it is called Prime Ministers question time when I have heard an answer given to a question?

darkgen · 10 Oct 2018 at 12:45

It's complete bolo isn't it. It should be scrapped or rules enforced to compel an actual answer to a question.

Randomface74 · 10 Oct 2018 at 12:54

Yeah PMQs is childish.

Diddums · 10 Oct 2018 at 12:58

Shocker as politicians are revealed to be self serving, lying scumbags who will say anything for an extra vote. Shoot them all and get new staff in.