Where's the scam with this site?

Rotty · 19 Oct 2018 at 11:04

http://www.flawlessbb.co.uk/index.php?route=product/search&search=jeffery

Prices are super low, their RRPs are lower than the true ones and their prices 60+% off on shoes that generally are not discounted by big amounts

Don't know of any fakes of these about

They take Visa/MC

The website looks shocking but scamadvisor says it legit

Just wondering what I am missing

booyaka · 19 Oct 2018 at 11:08

Not sure if serious??

The T&C/Delivery information/About us sections have zero details, spelling errors all over the place, twitter/facebook links go no where.

Wouldn't touch with a barge pole.

Maccy · 19 Oct 2018 at 11:09

The fact it doesn't use https is enough for me to say NOPE.

Rotty · 19 Oct 2018 at 11:11

I have no intention of buying and it's obv a scam

I was asking "what's the scam" rather than is it a scam

was just wondering how they scam with credit card sales that will just get charged back

dcsarge · 19 Oct 2018 at 11:12

The simple fact they don't have any of the contact and returns information required under UK consumer regs would ring alarm bells for me. Probably an overseas front site for knock off goods if you are lucky, a collection site for payment and email details if you are not.

Rotty · 19 Oct 2018 at 11:13

booyaka said:
Not sure if serious??

The T&C/Delivery information/About us sections have zero details, spelling errors all over the place, twitter/facebook links go no where.

Wouldn't touch with a barge pole.

aware of all that, was just wondering how they are scamming

Rotty · 19 Oct 2018 at 11:14

dcsarge said:
dcsarge said:

a collection site for payment and email details if you are not.

Click to expand...

That's was something I thought

Haze · 19 Oct 2018 at 11:14

Rotty said:
aware of all that, was just wondering how they are scamming

Order something and find out...

Rotty · 19 Oct 2018 at 11:14

yes, drop me your CC details

CREATIVE!11 · 19 Oct 2018 at 11:21

Op send me the money for shoes, i'll sort it out for you mate.

Promise. No scammerino.

touch · 19 Oct 2018 at 11:25

Rotty said:
aware of all that, was just wondering how they are scamming

1. You add items to your basket
2. Enter your card details to pay
3. Seller uses your card details to buy himself amazon/itunes gift cards

wolfie138 · 19 Oct 2018 at 11:29

Rotty said:
I have no intention of buying and it's obv a scam

I was asking "what's the scam" rather than is it a scam

was just wondering how they scam with credit card sales that will just get charged back

presumably you pay them money into an account using your card, they take the money out and nash off whilst you're waiting for delivery? you'd think they'd need a bunch of orders to actually make it all worthwhile though.

Semple · 19 Oct 2018 at 11:31

touch said:
1. You add items to your basket
2. Enter your card details to pay
3. Seller uses your card details to buy himself amazon/itunes gift cards

That's what i'd suspect, they're harvesting card payment details, rather than selling you fakes, well i imagine if you purchased something it would be a no-show. They might even be kind enough to actually refund you, but they've got your card details at that point.

randomshenans · 19 Oct 2018 at 12:17

Maccy said:
The fact it doesn't use https is enough for me to say NOPE.

Was my first thought!

Sudden · 19 Oct 2018 at 12:23

Rotty said:
aware of all that, was just wondering how they are scamming

Possibly they are targetting the companies rather than you? Chargeback protects you, but the card company still needs to take the hit if they can't recover the funds.

And a lot of people might not know about chargebacks, in which case they are scamming you.

AHarvey · 19 Oct 2018 at 12:28

Credit card collection details.

Take order.
Store details
Cancel order saying they can't do it
Buyer thinks nothing.

They then sell the details or bulk buy using all the details in a day and close the site down.

drs101 · 19 Oct 2018 at 12:52

whois

Registrant's address:
Fujian Zhangping
long yan
Fujian
364400
China

so Chinese knock off site

Arsonist · 19 Oct 2018 at 13:08

I personally enjoy the part where 'About us' and 'Terms and conditions' link you back to their latest offers page

Blackjack Davy · 19 Oct 2018 at 15:50

Rotty said:
The website looks shocking but scamadvisor says it legit

Just wondering what I am missing

That it hasn't been flagged by scamadvisor yet?

Its like antivirus I imagine its only malware when someone reports it as such until then it can carry on doing whatever the hell it likes and the AV takes no notice whatsoever heuristics be damned. Yes I'm embittered by AV failings.

RedvGreen · 19 Oct 2018 at 15:55

Maccy said:
The fact it doesn't use https is enough for me to say NOPE.

Strangely there are still legitimate, and sometimes large businesses that do not use HTTPS yet. When I booked CondorFerries in April their website had payment via unsecured HTTP. Put it on the credit card for protection, but nothing bad happened due to it. As a precaution I contacted them from another number I had (not one on their website) and they verified that their site URL was correct, as was their lack of security...