Ridiculously entitled baby-boomer complains that she can't sell her £1m home

Anyone in her position would have course hold-out for as much as you could possibly get. But as others have said, if no-ones putting in an offer for ~1million, then it's not worth that much. Complaining about 40k worth of SDLT is really not going to sway the market anywhere.

Can't help but have zero sympathy for her.
 
Also you kept mentioning Amsterdam and the fact they use a form of LVT. The short version is Amsterdam has a housing crisis.. so their LVT clearly doesn't work.
Well, I mentioned it once (or maybe twice). I don't feel that housing is as expensive in Amsterdam as it is in London, although you're correct it looks like prices are rising fast.

Again I see the logic, however demand far outstretches supply.. there needs to be a massive downswing in demand for this to have the desired affect.

One that probably can only be achieved by eye watering taxation, which will hurt everyone. Unless you specifically target the super rich. We all know that never has the intended outcome.

I'm not against an LVT, I think it makes more sense than current council tax. I just don't think it will have the desired outcome.
LVT isn't the only solution. Really we just need to tax the **** out of landlords and investors. There are almost 20,000 empty homes in London alone for example, in reality probably more. There's numerous evidence to suggest any new development is simply bought up by investors, half rented out, half left empty to inflate in value and then sold on to the next sheikh or Russian oligarch. This has happened in London for years but these people are now seeing better returns up north. When that happens finally people might understand that we need to reform our property laws and taxation to combat it. Not to sound like a broken record, but homes should not be an investment vehicle. They should be simply homes for people to live in.
Stuff like this; Almost all 866 flats in Battersea Power Station development sold to foreign investors for £675m - and they haven't even been built yet

I’m properly evil for taking on a 3 bed semi in London at it’s 1994 price as part of a divorce arrangement and flogging it for 10 times that amount 2 months ago.
I have absolutely no issue with it, as long as you acknowledge that life dealt you a very lucky hand -- and don't imagine for any minute that you are solely responsible or in some way inherently deserving of that windfall compared to the next person.
 
Not against the idea, but how would that work in practice? Does the value get assessed every year? Or just the last value it sold at?

Just to annoy some forum goers my parents bought their house in '99 at £300k. It's now worth £1m according to zoopla and similar houses in the area. You can no longer buy a house for 300k in the area. Obviously an annual valuation would be needed...but logistically that would be chaos... I bet when the housing market takes a dive the government will be slow at the annual valuations too...

If it was just based on last sold for price then people would be reluctant to move possibly... why would my parents move from a 4 bed detached paying LVT based on 300k a year to something smaller but an increase in LVT

You've listed a site that manages to tell you how much the house is currently worth, then stated having annual valuations would be chaotic.
 
You've listed a site that manages to tell you how much the house is currently worth, then stated having annual valuations would be chaotic.

Well zoopla uses an algorithm.. my house according to zoopla is 335k, realistically I could get 370k for it.

My parents house on zoopla is about £1.2m.. realistically they could get £1m

Whilst valuations are exactly that.. I would obviously be happy with the result on my house.. but if I was my parents with a 20% uplift?

Maybe something like zoopla is the answer though.
 
I dont agree personally.....its not about earning money for not working......how I see it is if your house rose in value from 500K to 1 Million through the general market prices increasing.....would you sell it for 500K as you dont feel you should have gained money for nothing?

No one expects anyone to sell their house for below market rate, the issue is that a genuinely large number of the older generation have made fortunes from "buying" property and sitting on it while some poor sucker pays their mortgage off. Even those that haven't are sitting on houses that are worth 10x what they paid for them 30 years ago. They then turn around and tell the younger generation how hard they worked for this sublime slice of luck. We're not going to have that luck with property and we are going to get an even worse deal when it comes to retirement and pensions. Prior to the current generation you could always expect to be better off than your parents, now thats gone and the older generation is plundering the young for their cushy retirements.
 
Well zoopla uses an algorithm.. my house according to zoopla is 335k, realistically I could get 370k for it.

My parents house on zoopla is about £1.2m.. realistically they could get £1m

Whilst valuations are exactly that.. I would obviously be happy with the result on my house.. but if I was my parents with a 20% uplift?

Maybe something like zoopla is the answer though.

Zooplas estimates are complete BS and the amount of effort it would take to value properties every year would make it pointless from a monetary point of view. People are constantly renovating, extending, areas are coming up, two houses next to each other can be wildly different in value even with the same shell etc.

Zoople valued our flat about £30k less than worse condition but identical flats in the same block that had been sold recently.

You would also have to deal with trying to persuade people that their family home that was once worth sweet FA in the **** part of london has gone up in value from £50k to £800k and they need to pay a huge yearly fee or sell up. Its just not fair.
 
Whatever she likes. It's her house and she's entitled to sell it at whatever price takes her fancy.
If I'd held onto my last GPU for a few months instead of selling it, I could have got a good £100 more. This is no different.
No you're missing the point. She's entitled to put it up for sale at whatever price she wants. That is different.

Err, that wasn't me.... and what I was saying is rather the opposite of what you just put down.
But yeah, stop wasting money on expensive crap you don't need and save it for this house you think you can't afford.
I was being sarcastic and facetious :)

No one expects anyone to sell their house for below market rate, the issue is that a genuinely large number of the older generation have made fortunes from "buying" property and sitting on it while some poor sucker pays their mortgage off. Even those that haven't are sitting on houses that are worth 10x what they paid for them 30 years ago. They then turn around and tell the younger generation how hard they worked for this sublime slice of luck. We're not going to have that luck with property and we are going to get an even worse deal when it comes to retirement and pensions. Prior to the current generation you could always expect to be better off than your parents, now thats gone and the older generation is plundering the young for their cushy retirements.
This. So much this. You can show people all the evidence and they just don't want to hear that's indefensibly harder for young people nowadays to get to where the boomers have got to. End of story. But they won't hear it.
 
Subsequent generations have that too, though. More so, I'd say.
It only took the right DotCom trade or winning lottery ticket and BOOM - £18mil plus to play with. In fact, what's the latest lottery win, $1.6 BILLION.
Plus you have all the high-paid jobs nowadays, like pilots and ATC, marketing and advertising, 10% of the population earns more than £100k and 50% earn more than £35k.
I see an awful lot of people of post-boomer generations, with an awful lot of cash to splash, swanky new cars, large houses, tech out the wazoo... I should be jealous, but I don't think I could afford it!

Your figures are incorrect. Around 4% of the working population (not entire population) earn £100,000 or more.
 
No one expects anyone to sell their house for below market rate, the issue is that a genuinely large number of the older generation have made fortunes from "buying" property and sitting on it while some poor sucker pays their mortgage off. Even those that haven't are sitting on houses that are worth 10x what they paid for them 30 years ago. They then turn around and tell the younger generation how hard they worked for this sublime slice of luck. We're not going to have that luck with property and we are going to get an even worse deal when it comes to retirement and pensions. Prior to the current generation you could always expect to be better off than your parents, now thats gone and the older generation is plundering the young for their cushy retirements.

You're talking about BTL landlords, which is different to someone who buys a house for themselves to live in......pays into it all their life and it just so happens to increase over time whilst they live in it. I agree a house should not be able to be bought with the view to renting it out using a mortgage, so effectively someone else is paying your mortgage...….but the people that live in their house and pay their mortgages haven't plundered anybody.....if anybody has done that deed its that banks creating tonnes of new money and pumping into the property market over the decades and then expecting that money they plucked out of thin air to be paid back with interest!

People need to stop looking at the haves, because at this point they are the have nots and blaming them for their issues......because if they had a property and lived in it all their life, would they consider themselves a plunderer of the next generation? no.

Also you are missing out Inheritance for their children, that will come from the rise of these properties....so some of that wealth is passed down.
 
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Why is it a giveaway? It could be of the working population, or of the population of working age (used to calculate unemployment rates etc).
 
People need to stop looking at the haves, because at this point they are the have nots and blaming them for their issues......because if they had a property and lived in it all their life, would they consider themselves a plunderer of the next generation? no.
I don't think I'm the only one who's made the connection between the boomer haves -- and the millennial have-nots :p

But for sure, I agree. We can't spend all day blaming the boomers for everything, but in a way they are part of the problem. For every capital-rich boomer who's invested in a little BTL on the side (I know plenty off the top of my head) that's taking another starter home out of the market. There's a list as long as my arm of perks that boomers had that are no longer available in life (free FE, final salary pensions, cheap housing.. just for starters). You can't blame individuals but as a collective political power they've done nothing but steamroller everything through to make sure they benefit.

There are several reasons why it's not selling... seven in fact
I don't know what these magic seven reasons are but perchance is one of them the cold hard fact that it might be overpriced? Or are you going to state every reason under the sun before admitting that? ;)
 
I don't think I'm the only one who's made the connection between the boomer haves -- and the millennial have-nots :p

But for sure, I agree. We can't spend all day blaming the boomers for everything, but in a way they are part of the problem. For every capital-rich boomer who's invested in a little BTL on the side (I know plenty off the top of my head) that's taking another starter home out of the market. There's a list as long as my arm of perks that boomers had that are no longer available in life (free FE, final salary pensions, cheap housing.. just for starters). You can't blame individuals but as a collective political power they've done nothing but steamroller everything through to make sure they benefit.

I don't know what these magic seven reasons are but perchance is one of them the cold hard fact that it might be overpriced? Or are you going to state every reason under the sun before admitting that? ;)

You're playing identity politics....so I cant get behind you....I'm a millennial and with a hell of a lot of saving and sacrifice and working my way up the corporate ladder me and my GF have managed to get on the property ladder...I had no help and I have no degree...IO understand this isn't the same for everyone, but its not impossible.

maybe write a book blaming others for the housing issue yourself....then im sure you'd be on the ladder in no time!
 
OP should either move out of London or find a cheaper area within London where he can buy if paying rent and not owning a property is such a big deal for him. Relying on Brexit for some massive property crash is might not bring the results he's hoping for, especially as he seemingly wasn't even aware of the previous significant drop in prices after the financial crisis.
 
Tbf her letter touched on the reprocussions of increasing stamp duty on her personal situation, government revenue, social mobility and first time buyers...

But yes, people seems to see old, £1m house and then vilify her for having 2 offers she accepted fall through because the buyers tried to pull a fast one last minute..

But it is about her. Excuse me Mr chancellor, I'm having a difficult time selling my home due to stamp duty so rather than lowering my value (which everyone else does if it is unrealistic) I will ask the law of the land to be changed to suit me. It is another indication of those with a lot being unwilling to pay their way. Stamp duty is proportional so she is being asked to pay more because she has more, I can only imagine the response if someone selling a (as an example) £150k house on a council estate was struggling to pay the stamp duty people would just be saying tough luck.

I have a relatively expansive home (certainly not 1 million mind :p) and on moving there from my last house when it wasn't selling I didn't write a letter to the chancellor asking them to change the law for me, I knocked a percentage off my asking price and sold it.

It's just entitlement politics but instead of a "benefit scrounger" which we love to hate it's a wealthy person crying about the diificulty of having million pound assets. Must be tough.
 
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