Thot Audit

Mason- · 27 Nov 2018 at 13:28

From a very brief google:
https://www.gov.uk/report-an-unregistered-trader-or-business

Report someone to HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) if you think they’re evading tax.

Don’t try to find out more about the tax evasion or let anyone know you’re making a report.

Seems like the government stance is suspicion is sufficient.

h4rm0ny · 27 Nov 2018 at 13:58

Trappi$t said:
Most of us don't need to pay fella

Weren't you complaining in another thread about your loneliness and inclination to slit your wrists at Christmas? If you look at any sort of commercialised nudity (and unless you're literally blind I have trouble seeing how that's true) then you're probably paying one way or another, even if that's just with your time and attention for ad revenue.

Anyway, whether you do or you don't, you were advocating for stopping it on moral standards grounds, not your own lack of interest in "norks".

Mason- said:
From a very brief google:
https://www.gov.uk/report-an-unregistered-trader-or-business

Seems like the government stance is suspicion is sufficient.

Yes. But implicit in that would be to actually have some reason to suspect it rather than a group of outcasts mass reporting attractive women out of bitterness and hate.

h4rm0ny · 27 Nov 2018 at 14:01

G-MAN2004 said:

Okay, see - now that's bad. Did you have to blot out the account name? I'd have liked to have visited that to see the trainwreck that made up the rest of that thread.

Trappi$t · 27 Nov 2018 at 14:02

h4rm0ny said:
Weren't you complaining in another thread about your loneliness and inclination to slit your wrists at Christmas? If you look at any sort of commercialised nudity (and unless you're literally blind I have trouble seeing how that's true) then you're probably paying one way or another, even if that's just with your time and attention for ad revenue.

Anyway, whether you do or you don't, you were advocating for stopping it on moral standards grounds, not your own lack of interest in "norks".

I fail to see a connection between a miserable family Christmas, and desperate nerds paying women over the internet to strip on webcams?

CREATIVE!11 · 27 Nov 2018 at 14:04

Sex work is real work and you should respect us!

Sex work should be exempt from tax because it's not real work!

Which one is it?

cheesyboy · 27 Nov 2018 at 14:07

Roar87 said:
The problem is that Donald Trump is in charge of multi million dollar companies, and if he's paying as much tax as possible and his competitors are paying as little as they are legally obliged to, then he'll go out of business. The onus is on the government to create effective tax laws.

Worth noting the distinction between Trump, as an individual, and his business entities.

Roar87 · 27 Nov 2018 at 15:33

Raymond Lin said:
Your sentence contradicts yourself there.

Since he is effectively the government so it is in his best interest to not to tax himself at all and you said he is in charge of all these companies, I thought he signed those piles of papers with that Russian law firm to hand over control?

I agree that one only needs to pay what is due legally but your paragraph is full of holes lol

I was talking about his tax arrangements before he came into government, he's not currently running any companies and doesn't even receive his salary as President.

Raymond Lin · 27 Nov 2018 at 15:35

Roar87 said:
I was talking about his tax arrangements before he came into government, he's not currently running any companies and doesn't even receive his salary as President.

He makes more in a weekend when he plays golf by charging the government for the secret service staying in his resort than his salary and he plays golf, a LOT. The whole "I am not taking any salary" is a front for PR and only a fool would fall for it.

If he is so "I am not taking any money from the government and want to pay it back" then he will let the secret service stay at his resorts for free or any of his properties. He has control of that, but he doesn't.

Trappi$t · 27 Nov 2018 at 15:37

Trump bashing is so last year, the worlds moved on.

Raymond Lin · 27 Nov 2018 at 15:40

Trappi$t said:
Trump bashing is so last year, the worlds moved on.

People would stop when Trump stops being stupid.

I would love to but he constantly gives us material.

Diddums · 27 Nov 2018 at 15:41

Trappi$t said:
Most of us don't need to pay fella

Hey buddy, if you wanna bat for the other team that's great, but you don't need to tell us

Meaker · 27 Nov 2018 at 15:45

Mason- said:
I have no idea if they have proof. It's up to the taxman whether they deem it sufficient, I don't know how much evidence you need to report a self employed person to the taxman, I've never done it. It doesn't mean we shouldn't do it though, I really don't see why that's relevant?

Considering a lot of them are getting upset at the fact they've been reported, clearly some of them weren't paying taxes.

Well in this case people are accusing them just because of their profession from the looks of things. That's not grounds for an audit.

Also if you have ever been through an audit or know the process of course you are upset, even if you have done nothing wrong it's a giant PITA.

h4rm0ny · 27 Nov 2018 at 17:00

Trappi$t said:
If he is so "I am not taking any money from the government and want to pay it back" then he will let the secret service stay at his resorts for free or any of his properties. He has control of that, but he doesn't.

So you want him to not only forego his presidential salary (I wouldn't), but to actually PAY to be president by footing the bill for all his security arrangements?

Raymond Lin · 27 Nov 2018 at 17:04

h4rm0ny said:
So you want him to not only forego his presidential salary (I wouldn't), but to actually PAY to be president by footing the bill for all his security arrangements?

No….

The whole reason he didn't take his salary was a PR stunt to say "look, i am a rich man, i don't need to get paid, i'd do this job serving my country for free!"

Then he goes and charges INFLATED (he put the prices up btw after the election) rates to the government for the secret service for playing golf at a resort that he owns. He could easily go play golf for a day out near the white house, not spent a weekend away in Florida, flying Air Force One there and back, spending fuel, security detail for golf. You know, if he were so charitable and don't want to make a profit from the government then charge the rooms at cost, not at profit, not at inflated prices, or play golf in the state, not fly across the country.

THAT is the point.

Not sure how much more one needs explaining.

SlyReaper · 27 Nov 2018 at 17:08

DampCat said:
Is it? I dont care about the context of this discussion, i couldnt care less what people do for money. But... isn't it a moral obligation to report it? I mean, I'm expected to pay all my taxes? Our entire society depends upon it.

Guess it depends on how you look at it. The way I see it, one person not paying their taxes has basically zero effect on me or anyone else, and I've always had the attitude to mind my own business. Conversely, forcing that one person to start paying taxes has basically zero effect on the country's tax income, when you consider the hundreds of billions in taxes they already take.

I would grumble at someone if I knew they were dodging taxes, and I would try to persuade them to pay their fair share. I wouldn't dob them in though.

VincentHanna · 27 Nov 2018 at 17:09

Raymond Lin said:
No….

The whole reason he didn't take his salary was a PR stunt to say "look, i am a rich man, i don't need to get paid, i'd do this job serving my country for free!"

Then he goes and charges INFLATED rates to the government for the secret service for playing golf at a resort that he owns. He could easily go play golf for a day out near the white house, not spent a weekend away in Florida, flying Air Force One there and back, spending fuel, security detail for golf.

THAT is the point.

Not sure how much more one needs explaining.

Unfortunately, the idiots fall for that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...a-lago-alone-than-the-mueller-probe-has-cost/

arknor · 27 Nov 2018 at 17:12

sad thing is twitch probably paid for the gaming pcs all these women are using since they had a thing and maybe still do where they were trying to encourage female streamers

d_brennen · 27 Nov 2018 at 17:19

arknor said:
sad thing is twitch probably paid for the gaming pcs all these women are using since they had a thing and maybe still do where they were trying to encourage female streamers

Not sure if the overt intention was to attract a load of strippers, which is apparently what's happened.

I'm glad most social media/streaming has passed my by. I mean, watching people play games. What's that about? In my day we used to play games ourselves and all this was fields

Raymond Lin · 27 Nov 2018 at 17:27

d_brennen said:
Not sure if the overt intention was to attract a load of strippers, which is apparently what's happened.

I'm glad most social media/streaming has passed my by. I mean, watching people play games. What's that about? In my day we used to play games ourselves and all this was fields

The only reason i would watch Let's Play videos (never stream) is to check out how it looks in game and perhaps how it plays. I could never sit through hour of that.

robin66 · 27 Nov 2018 at 18:57

Lots of good opinions and points made in this thread.

But as we can all see. The media has twisted this into something other than people avoiding their taxes.

I just found the whole thing funny. And it still makes me laugh just thinking about it.