Latest Gillette ad suggests their customers are broken, toxic and need "fixing" through feminism

Freakbro said:
I wasn't meaning it to be specifically about group rape, just to show in general how they shrugged off sexual assault as "one of those things". But you are right, I should have been more specific in my reply for the pedantic internet types :)
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You replied to this:
"And no, I don't think anybody said "boys will be boys" about group rape."

What else are we supposed to gleam from what you've said?
 
Mason- said:
You replied to this:
"And no, I don't think anybody said "boys will be boys" about group rape."

What else are we supposed to gleam from what you've said?
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The bit where I specified that they spoke to them about a variety of sexual assault issues and not solely the Kavanaugh group rape case?

But like I said, I acknowledge I could have been clearer for the pedantic internet types


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@h4rm0ny - Sorry your original reply didn't come up with an alert so I've only just seen it
 
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jimjamuk said:
On that basis then shouldnt we ban beer and the game devils triangle (never heard of it btw)
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Not sure on what basis basis you're going for there, but I was being glib about Devil's Triangle - Kavanaugh claimed it was a game of some sort, but it's actually a threesome involving 2 blokes and 1 woman.

Anyway, point was that the whole 'boys will be boys' thing seems to run right through childhood into adolescence and into young adulthood, as a way of excusing boys' behaviour in all sorts of ways. They're supposed to do that, silly, they're BOYS!

h4rm0ny said:
What? You're repeating very shaky and unsupported accusations, politically motivated, as if they were fact. You're even exaggerating them from what the accusations were! And no, I don't think anybody said "boys will be boys" about group rape.
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Doesn't matter how shaky or not the accusations were (voiceover - 'the accusations weren't at all shaky'), people were excusing the actions anyway. That's just boys - they're all like that!

Just google "brett kavanaugh boys will be boys" for some considered analysis on the phenomenon.
 
Minusorange said:
If we took this Gillette ad and changed the focus from rapey overpowering men to knife crime in London depicting young Black males as knife wielding murderers, how well do you think that would go down ?
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We do literally, in the real world, target interventions at young black men to steer them away from gang crime and suchlike. Using positive black role models to visit youth projects, or education resources fronted by pictures of studious black boys etc.
 
cheesyboy said:
We do literally, in the real world, target interventions at young black men to steer them away from gang crime and suchlike. Using positive black role models to visit youth projects, or education resources fronted by pictures of studious black boys etc.
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That's not answering the question I asked now is it
 
Minusorange said:
Come now, don't play coy you know exactly how a video depicting young black males as knife wielding murderers would go down
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i think an advert that shows black youths/men doing bad things, then encourages them not to do that bad thing, and instead do some good things is pretty much in line with the sort of campaigns I was talking about in my previous response. Not sure it would be very effective, though - what youths actually ever watch adverts now?

Might also not suit a Gillette ad, since they're not specifically marketing to black men but, rather, all men.
 
mattx2 said:
Just seems like a bit of corporate ass covering as a few previous posters have pointed out some of their adverts have been a little close to the edge of acceptable these days. It was probably only a matter of time before a few sjw types started something.
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Why is everything so damn political these days... I remember once it was funny dependant on the scenario when random joes trolled others across the Internet. Now you have the world news media and corporates as well as newsreaders trolling people in antagonistic ways on twitter. Kay Burley and J.K Rowling are fine examples on these crusades. Now you have corporates trolling customers provoking a reaction online to be reported. Yet these are the same types of people complaining how mean people are yet they think it's ok to dish out the same stuff they hate?...
 
Freakbro said:
I wasn't meaning it to be specifically about group rape, just to show in general how they shrugged off sexual assault as "one of those things". But you are right, I should have been more specific in my reply for the pedantic internet types :)
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It's not pedantry over small details. Pedantry would be pointing out that you should have capitalised Internet. You said that people dismissed group rape as "boys will be boys" and then Freakbro dug up a reference to support you when it was someone talking about an alleged case of a teenage boy lying down on top of a teenage girl briefly at a party before letting her leave.

Your problem isn't lack of specificity. It's that you grossly misrepresented something. Intellectually dishonest, much?
 
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