New Zealand Killer Trial

[LabR@t]

Why are you trying to support a terrorist?

No someone was justifying terrorism for the stuff the 'evil' west had done in syris

 

[LabR@t]

I'm guessing it will be an Indian version of Fox News or Daily Express / Mail given the recent Kashmir incidents so they are pushing their anti-[whomever] agenda

Muslim, your allowed to say that you know.

 

[VincentHanna]

India is 80% Hindu, and fake news spreads like wildfire there on social media.

 

[Minusorange]

Another person has been arrested for sharing the video of the attack and faces jail for doing so.

Out of curiosity has anyone ever been arrested for sharing videos of ISIS/Al Qaeda murdering people ? I know there's been a few hostage beheading vids that circulated and that Jordanian (was he from Jordan?) Pilot who was burned alive, I find it worrying they'll go after anyone who shares the video as it seems very anti freedom under the guise of promoting terror, when it doesn't actually promote any agenda all it shows is the reality of a crazed psychopath murdering innocents, very worrying that they're actively trying to punish those who wish to document the events

 

[RaohNS]

^^ This.

It's a pretty obvious notion no

 

[dowie]

India is 80% Hindu, and fake news spreads like wildfire there on social media.

The social media fake news is more likely to be from Pakistan in this instance.

 

[ttaskmaster]

Holocaust photos were available almost immediately after the war and were a coup de grace to Holocaust deniers.

I did say it was a twofold problem - How many of those people had grown up with Holocaust videos circulating?
These days, people see this guy's video and there's no real difference to watching a vid of an FPS game, except that the latter has higher resolution.

Anybody being inspired by mass slaughter of innocent people was already down that rabbit hole.

I don't recall that many mass killings happening in the 1940s, 50s, 60s or 70s, really... even with things like Vietnam and The Troubles going on.

 

[Johno please?]

Understanding, and trying to understand, why things like this happen, is a good thing. People who cannot understand the distinction between understanding and supporting are a problem.

I had similar conversations after 9/11 where any discussion of the attacker's motives would get you crucified. Understanding runs counter to the need of some for simple narratives.

Well I don't understand why people get so angry at cartoons they kill people, do you understand that?

Thats the same type of people that fly planes into buildings by the way.

 

[Thecaferacer]

I don't recall that many mass killings happening in the 1940s, 50s, 60s or 70s, really... even with things like Vietnam and The Troubles going on.

Charles Whitman, university of Texas 1966, Anthony Barbaro 1974, Edward Charles Allaway 1976, Hungerford 1987, Kampala wedding massacre 1994, Port Arthur 1996

And that's just lone shooters, without going into terrorist groups like the Munich massacre 1972 or Beslan massacre in 2004

 

[ttaskmaster]

Charles Whitman, university of Texas 1966, Anthony Barbaro 1974, Edward Charles Allaway 1976, Hungerford 1987, Kampala wedding massacre 1994, Port Arthur 1996

I said I don't recall that many, not that there were none.

And that's just lone shooters, without going into terrorist groups like the Munich massacre 1972 or Beslan massacre in 2004

This is all of them, including the above, IRA bombings and even war crime incidents like Mai Lai:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mass_murder_by_year

Pre and Post WW2 until the mid-70s, most mass killings were in the single figures.

1966 - 8 incidents
1974 - 23 incidents
1976 - 21 incidents
1987 - 27 incidents
1994 - 32 incidents
1996 - 20 incidents
2015 - 96 incidents
2016 - 132 incidents!!

And we've had 16 so far in this year alone... I'm sure this is all just perception of statistics, though and absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with widespread media availability, or anything....

 

[Scam]

I see no reason to restrict the manuscript, it's pretty ordinary stuff. You'll find worse in the average thread on 8chan.

And if your average 8chan user reads his manifesto, realises they agree with it and manage to persuade themselves that they should also be walking downtown shooting dead 50 people in cold blood, what then? There's a difference between restricting the distribution of such a manifesto and a British newspaper actively deciding to publish it hours after the writer has murdered 50 people. I couldn't care less if people want to distribute it amongs themselves but I can\t believe we've got to the point with our tabloid scum that people are defending them for publishing the manifesto for a guy who literally just committed mass murder. It's crazy.

That sounds like some BS spread via whatsapp/social media. There is quite a big fake news issue in Pakistan (and India).

I don’t know why you’re reposting an allegation like that without a link though.

Yeah. Goes to show how easy it is to spread fake news. It took me about 3 clicks to find the Time of India, read some of their articles and realise what he said was nonsense

 

[StriderX]

I think it’s time isps delisted 8chan completely, bored of its mention at this point.

They can look for another echo chamber to spew dribble.

 

[Thecaferacer]

I said I don't recall that many, not that there were none.

This is all of them, including the above, IRA bombings and even war crime incidents like Mai Lai:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mass_murder_by_year

Pre and Post WW2 until the mid-70s, most mass killings were in the single figures.

1966 - 8 incidents
1974 - 23 incidents
1976 - 21 incidents
1987 - 27 incidents
1994 - 32 incidents
1996 - 20 incidents
2015 - 96 incidents
2016 - 132 incidents!!

And we've had 16 so far in this year alone... I'm sure this is all just perception of statistics, though and absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with widespread media availability, or anything....

I wouldnt disagree there's been an increase in mass murder attacks. I just pointed out random killings aren't new. I still remember sitting watching coverage or Columbine, and now it seems almost routine.

Do you believe it's media influenced? Social isolation? Ready availability of military grade assault weapons? Too much call of duty?

 

[Admiral Huddy]

I don't recall that many mass killings happening in the 1940s, 50s, 60s or 70s, really... even with things like Vietnam and The Troubles going on.

Bloody Sunday is being widely covered in the news right now.

 

[Yadda]

I see this chump did the old white supremacy "ok" hand gesture (it's only memes bro etc) during his court appearance.

I wonder how many of his fans have talked about how "red pilled" he is and how freaked out "the normies" are by him, and all the rest of the garbage spewed out by those circles.

 

[h4rm0ny]

I see this chump did the old white supremacy "ok" hand gesture (it's only memes bro etc) during his court appearance.

You are 4chan's target audience. That's a troll they organised. Unless I'm gravely mistaken about the White Supremacist leanings of Eddie Murphy and Occasio-Cortez:

Gesture has been around forever. Some people just decided it would be great if they spread the word that it was a White Supremacy code for either the lols, to convince people there was a lot more racism out there than they thought, or most likely both.

 

[VincentHanna]

As someone pointed out to you before, the swastika was 1000's of years old before Nazi's appropriated it about 100 years ago.

It might have started off as trolling, but then it becomes an actual thing.

 

[Yadda]

You are 4chan's target audience. That's a troll they organised. Unless I'm gravely mistaken about the White Supremacist leanings of Eddie Murphy and Occasio-Cortez:

Gesture has been around forever. Some people just decided it would be great if they spread the word that it was a White Supremacy code for either the lols, to convince people there was a lot more racism out there than they thought, or most likely both.

You don't think I've seen it before? Dear me.

If you don't see how the symbol has been used in the last few years and believe the "it's just a troll" nonsense then I'm afraid you've been taken in by their nonsense.

I guess I'm just not "red pilled" enough.

 

[StriderX]

You are 4chan's target audience. That's a troll they organised. Unless I'm gravely mistaken about the White Supremacist leanings of Eddie Murphy and Occasio-Cortez:

Gesture has been around forever. Some people just decided it would be great if they spread the word that it was a White Supremacy code for either the lols, to convince people there was a lot more racism out there than they thought, or most likely both.

Yes, haha what a troll. If they want to change the meaning of the gesture, then to ignore it would be foolish.

You could counterargue that ignoring it would be the right choice, but we live in strange times and if even a single person identified by this inane symbolism can be picked up by mi5 or whatever, they have no choice but to include it in their investigations.

Trust me, you’ll change your opinion soon enough, when the dullards don’t realise it’s a troll and start believing it’s their symbol.

 

[Sankari]

And if your average 8chan user reads his manifesto, realises they agree with it and manage to persuade themselves that they should also be walking downtown shooting dead 50 people in cold blood, what then?

Then that will be unfortunate, but they won't read anything in his manifesto that they can't legally elsewhere, so it strikes me as a moot point.