Parking fine dispute amongst friends

Jean-F said:
This sounds like when you tore your trousers climbing over the fence to get your ball as a kid.
“It wasn’t my fault mum, Billy climbed over first!”
Mum; “If Billy stuck his head in a gas oven, would you do it?”
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That's not the same situation at all.

I take it if a taxi driver gets a ticket while transporting you, you'd be happy contributing? :)

Do you think if the driver speeds and kills someone the passenger should also be culpable?
 
The driver is a dribbling idiot

My mate parked in an exclusiion zone in Mallorca, despite my repeated warnings that he would end up getting it sore, if he'd asked me to pay to get the rental car back from the pound? i'd have ****** my keks laughing at him. If i'd encouraged him to park there, that would be a different matter, but i still wouldn't have paid him for the fine:cool:
 
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Sasahara said:
That's not the same situation at all.

I take it if a taxi driver gets a ticket while transporting you, you'd be happy contributing? :)

Do you think if the driver speeds and kills someone the passenger should also be culpable?
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Not sure what you’re smoking, but it must be some powerful ****.
If my taxi driver gets a tug for contravening the Road Traffic Acts, where do I come in?”
Equally, even if I’ve told him that I’m pushed for time, if he guns it away from a roundabout, and clips a cyclist, how is it my fault?
I came down St. Martins Lane once, when I was driving a taxi, a few days after the No Right Turn sign appeared at William 1V Street, I had two Canadians in the back, going to Harrods.
I swung left into William IV Street, and hung a quick U turn to get to St Martins Place, sure enough a Gestapo Agent in motor cycle cop uniform gave me a tug.
“It’s no right turn there”, he said.
“I didn’t turn right”, I replied.
“No, you did a U turn, didn’t you?” he came back, “I’ve got your number, I’ll be watching out for you.”
Question, if that a-hole had given me a PCN, do you think I’d have asked the Canucks to pitch in?, Correct, I wouldn’t.
 
Jean-F said:
Not sure what you’re smoking, but it must be some powerful ****.
If my taxi driver gets a tug for contravening the Road Traffic Acts, where do I come in?”
Equally, even if I’ve told him that I’m pushed for time, if he guns it away from a roundabout, and clips a cyclist, how is it my fault?
I came down St. Martins Lane once, when I was driving a taxi, a few days after the No Right Turn sign appeared at William 1V Street, I had two Canadians in the back, going to Harrods.
I swung left into William IV Street, and hung a quick U turn to get to St Martins Place, sure enough a Gestapo Agent in motor cycle cop uniform gave me a tug.
“It’s no right turn there”, he said.
“I didn’t turn right”, I replied.
“No, you did a U turn, didn’t you?” he came back, “I’ve got your number, I’ll be watching out for you.”
Question, if that a-hole had given me a PCN, do you think I’d have asked the Canucks to pitch in?, Correct, I wouldn’t.
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You don't seem able to comprehend I'm asking you these questions, not making statements. If anyone smoking **** here it's you. :)

My initial statement is unless the friend specifically convinces the driver to park illegally, he "shouldn't" be paying anything, it's the drivers fault.
Or were you attempting to agree with this?

If the friend did convince the driver against his better judgement to park illegally, then out of decency he should pay at least half. But legally doesn't have to.

Your ball scenario isn't a comparative event to what we are discussing in this thread. The passenger isn't copying the drivers actions.

So I gave you some proper comparative scenarios to see your opinion on. :)
 
Feek said:
A bunch of us were going to a radio rally a few years ago and the driver got flashed by a camera. We split the cost of his course and he's never, ever going to be allowed to forget it :D That's what good mates do.
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That is what friends are for. Fantastic story
 
While discussing this with Mrs Sexy (because she is often being transported or transporting others) she reminded me that me and my best mate split up over something similar in the late 70s.
He was driving like an absolute **** and I kept telling him to slow down when he eventually got pulled.
He wanted me to go halves on his fine when I had repeatedly told him to slow down but I said no and we never spoke after that.
The fine was probably about £2 back then :)
 
Rroff said:
What annoys me with situations like that is where the passenger is like "It'll be fine", "people do it all the time", etc. whether they'd do the same if they were driving or not is another matter. Completely out of order trying to encourage someone else to do stuff like that.
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This is really common. "It'll be alright" "nothing will happen" etc etc - almost always from non drivers, and always from those who are at no risk.
 
Sasahara said:
You don't seem able to comprehend I'm asking you these questions, not making statements. If anyone smoking **** here it's you. :)

My initial statement is unless the friend specifically convinces the driver to park illegally, he "shouldn't" be paying anything, it's the drivers fault.
Or were you attempting to agree with this?

If the friend did convince the driver against his better judgement to park illegally, then out of decency he should pay at least half. But legally doesn't have to.

Your ball scenario isn't a comparative event to what we are discussing in this thread. The passenger isn't copying the drivers actions.

So I gave you some proper comparative scenarios to see your opinion on. :)
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I’m unsure here, maybe I got the wrong end of the stick, maybe I didn’t, but I genuinely dislike arguing with other posters, so if I did appear to go against you, I’m sorry.
In your post # 111, you said that the driver should pay, UNLESS the passenger was the specific cause of getting the ticket, i.e. passenger told driver where to park.
I maintain that the driver should ignore the passenger, and only park where he, (the driver), is sure that he’s found a legal spot. I think that we’re in agreement on that one.
In your post # 121, you asked that if a taxi driver got a ticket while transporting me, would I be happy to contribute, or if a driver was fined for speeding, should the passenger also be culpable?
I replied in post # 124, how am I involved if I’m the passenger? If the driver incurs a penalty for anything, how is it even partially my fault?
I hope this satisfies you that I was just stating how I would see these things, and not trying to engage you in a keyboard war, okay?
 
In summary, the driver was in charge of the vehicle and the decision where to park was ultimately down to him. Therefore only the driver should be liable to pay the fine in full.

It's like a bus driver asking his passengers to pay a fine because he stopped somewhere that he shouldn't have.
 
If it was me, I'd pay it and wouldn't expect anyone to cough up anything, unless it was the passenger who insisted I park in that place, then I'd not ask but would be a bit ****** about it.
In general though, if it was the first scenario and I just parked there and got the fine, even if my friend offered to split it, I wouldn't accept the money.
 
If the driver decided to park there, then this is their fault.

If I was a passenenger and I told the driver that it was okay to park there, and i turned out not to be - I would feel a bit guilty and offer to pay for it (despite it still being their resonsibility to know where they can and cannot park).
 
Jean-F said:
I’m unsure here, maybe I got the wrong end of the stick, maybe I didn’t, but I genuinely dislike arguing with other posters, so if I did appear to go against you, I’m sorry.
In your post # 111, you said that the driver should pay, UNLESS the passenger was the specific cause of getting the ticket, i.e. passenger told driver where to park.
I maintain that the driver should ignore the passenger, and only park where he, (the driver), is sure that he’s found a legal spot. I think that we’re in agreement on that one.
In your post # 121, you asked that if a taxi driver got a ticket while transporting me, would I be happy to contribute, or if a driver was fined for speeding, should the passenger also be culpable?
I replied in post # 124, how am I involved if I’m the passenger? If the driver incurs a penalty for anything, how is it even partially my fault?
I hope this satisfies you that I was just stating how I would see these things, and not trying to engage you in a keyboard war, okay?
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Thanks for this, it's rare for anyone here to admit an error, even a slight one. :)

I think we are in aggreement over the issue. The passenger shouldn't have any resonsibility and it's all down the driver, its their car and licence. :)
If it was a friend that insisted on parking illegally then they may have a moral obligation to pay something towards it, but the driver is in control and can just ignore the passenger.
 
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