Different pay scales in work.

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Keeping this as brief as possible.
One of our graphic designers is leaving where I work, I do the same job with the exact same responsibility etc.
As he is leaving an ad is made looking for a new designer, the pay in the Ad is 2.5k more than what i currently make.
I have asked for a meeting with the manager as to a reason for the difference, does anyone have any tip as the best way to approach this?
 
Send e-mail asking for a pay review, outline what you've contributed/achieved, anything you've done that adds value etc.. and point out that you feel you're earning below market rates and your current compensation doesn't reflect your contributions to the company. Also potentially offer to take on more responsibilities, ask how you can progress etc..etc.. Be bold and perhaps ask (at least initially) for more than the advert is offering to some new person. You don't necessarily need to even mention the advert but if you're going to bring it up then just mention it up front, don't pull it out later as some "checkmate" move.

Do you not already have an annual pay review out of interest?
 
We never had one from last year no, dont ask, the managers arnt exactly...well..any good.
All of those pointers make sense though so thank you. I'm just also controlling some anger.
 
Beerbaron said:
Apply for the job :D
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That almost happened, accidentally, to a friend of mine. A recruiter called him up, told him about a job, went through the requirements, my mate's thoughts were "great, I can do all of that, sounds perfect". Recruiter sent through job spec... turned out he was recruiting for the job my mate was already doing, literally in the same team! (obviously hadn't read the CV properly to see where he was currently working)

Of course the salary range had been mentioned and the recruiter did of course assure my friend that he could probably get him a nice raise to £X... so of course my mate then ended up calling a meeting with his bosses and asking for a raise!
 
My wife gets £3000 less than one of her colleagues for doing the same job.

They did a pay review recently and though she did get an increase, it didn't change the pay difference. Her colleague has been in the role longer but often asks my wife for advice.

They work for the county council so you can't just request a raise apparently....I find it maddening.
 
This type of thing seems to be getting more and more common and annual pay reviews are becoming less and less common...
 
Someone was hired here in the position I work in for 2K more than I'm on. I asked for a pay review and got the 2K more... My colleague was on 1K less than me, so 3K less than this new starter, he had the same meeting, and they matched our pay, so now we are all on the same... :p
 
The company aren't going to just give you a pay increase out of the goodness of their heart, you're going to either have to ask nicely or threaten to leave and maybe even make arrangements to leave. It's one of the arguments why women are generally paid less they're less likely to do those things if they're feeling settled.
 
cu3ed said:
Keeping this as brief as possible.
One of our graphic designers is leaving where I work, I do the same job with the exact same responsibility etc.
As he is leaving an ad is made looking for a new designer, the pay in the Ad is 2.5k more than what i currently make.
I have asked for a meeting with the manager as to a reason for the difference, does anyone have any tip as the best way to approach this?
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You: Babes, not cool.
Manager: Well, this is for a slightly different role and requires an expanded skillset.
You: Should I stand or bang, or stand and bang? Questions, you see?
Manager: Uh huh. We're looking for new people. I'm glad you picked up on this from the description.
You: NOBODY PUTS BABY IN THE CORNER!
Manager: YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
You: THERE IS ALWAYS MONEY IN THE BANANA STAND!
Manager: AND LIKE THAT ... HE'S GONE.

Holy ****, I would watch the hell out of this movie :rad:
 
They have told me the new person will have a different skill, in a room of 3 people, I will believe this when I see it.
No raise. Will go find another job.
 
[FnG]magnolia said:
You: Babes, not cool.
Manager: Well, this is for a slightly different role and requires an expanded skillset.
You: Should I stand or bang, or stand and bang? Questions, you see?
Manager: Uh huh. We're looking for new people. I'm glad you picked up on this from the description.
You: NOBODY PUTS BABY IN THE CORNER!
Manager: YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
You: THERE IS ALWAYS MONEY IN THE BANANA STAND!
Manager: AND LIKE THAT ... HE'S GONE.

Holy ****, I would watch the hell out of this movie :rad:
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what was the point of that post?
 
I've always worked for companies where the pay rate is standard for the job, no one gets paid more or less than the other.

I'd hate to work somewhere that uses divide and conquer tactics, like paying individuals more and expecting others to justify their worth.
 
I did this and was given a payrise by just saying considering how I'll be training the new employee and have been there X amount of time then I felt I deserved to be on the same as them.
 
String said:
I've always worked for companies where the pay rate is standard for the job, no one gets paid more or less than the other.

I'd hate to work somewhere that uses divide and conquer tactics, like paying individuals more and expecting others to justify their worth.
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It's not a good way to run a business.

For the sake of £2.5k, I surprised they're prepared to argue the toss tbh. Clearly it's the same job, and £2.5k doesn't make a material difference in "finding the right person", especially before you've even started interviewing.
 
cu3ed said:
They have told me the new person will have a different skill, in a room of 3 people, I will believe this when I see it.
No raise. Will go find another job.
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I was in the exact same situation as you years ago. Member of my team left, new job ad out for the role paying a few £k more than I was on. Handed in my notice very soon after.
 
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