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** The AMD Navi Thread **

Apparently a Sapphire rep said their aftermarket cards won't land until roughly 8 weeks after the reference launch.
I don't get why they still bother with blower reference cards but they never learn their lesson.

 
nashathedog said:
Apparently a Sapphire rep said their aftermarket cards won't land until roughly 8 weeks after the reference launch.
I don't get why they still bother with blower reference cards but they never learn their lesson.

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Do we know for certain the reference will be a blower design? Could be a triple fan like radeon 7.
 
Zeed said:
OFC AMD found best scaling ggame (I never heard of) where it shines and say WE ARE CRUSHING COMPETITION.
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If you've never heard of Strange Brigade you should take a look at it, It only ended up on my radar because it was in a games bundle with an AMD gpu but I've really enjoyed it, It has a single player campaign, co-op & a Horde Mode as seen in this vid. In total I've put over a hundred hours into it now.

 
Gerard said:
Do we know for certain the reference will be a blower design? Could be a triple fan like radeon 7.
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I wondered about that too but a tech site (I forget which) were going over a blueprint for what was apparently the Navi pcb recently & they mentioned something about the three hole design around the chip being a blower design type. They might be wrong but it was just one of the things they mentioned that stuck in my head as disappointing.
 
nashathedog said:
I wondered about that too but a tech site (I forget which) were going over a blueprint for what was apparently the Navi pcb recently & they mentioned something about the three hole design around the chip being a blower design type. They might be wrong but it was just one of the things they mentioned that stuck in my head as disappointing.
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Probably makes most sense for the water cooling guys. I can wait for a bit longer, more time to save up, think I'm going to need it!
 
Zeed said:
OFC AMD found best scaling ggame (I never heard of) where it shines and say WE ARE CRUSHING COMPETITION.
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So AMD pick a game that runs well on there hardware yet also runs well on Nvidia and you have a problem with this. Do you think Nvidia would have been so kind. If I was AMD it would have been Rage as wasn't the Vega range beating the 2080ti in that title at 1080p/1440p. I would say Strange Brigade was fair enough and no company would pick a game that favoured there rivals. The fact that tier for tier the difference ain't large on current cards shows it was not over the top.
 
TheRealDeal said:
That's the same Ram as mine. Just went into bios and set the D.O.C.P. to 3200 which gives decent timings. Overall very impressed with the system. Vega 64 at 4k is pushed to its limits but with some tweaking in games its decent with Freesync helping smooth things out.
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Kill_Phil said:
@TheRealDeal yeah I've got it clocked to 3.8 at the moment so may try to squeeze a bit more out of it. I've got the 8pack 3200 bdie ram which luckily ran out of the box but could work on the timings.

Im swaying towards navi but may hold off on the bechmarks
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Same ram as me also, but mine will not and will never go to 3200,it produces errors almost instantly, but it loves 3000 at 13,13,13,34,46 timing, it's weird
 
Illuminist said:
Same ram as me also, but mine will not and will never go to 3200,it produces errors almost instantly, but it loves 3000 at 13,13,13,34,46 timing, it's weird
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I take it you are up to date with your boards bios. Running a 2 series on an x470 platform I skipped all the memory issues. From what I have read the x370 and below with Ryzen 1000 chips were temperamental with higher memory but bios updates sorted most of this out.
 
TheRealDeal said:
I take it you are up to date with your boards bios. Running a 2 series on an x470 platform I skipped all the memory issues. From what I have read the x370 and below with Ryzen 1000 chips were temperamental with higher memory but bios updates sorted most of this out.
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Yep read my sig for what I have, every time there is a bios update I think "finally" but everytime it can't handle being at 3200
 
Part of me wonders (a hopeful part) if AMD are deliberately downplaying Navi by only making one comparison - to a 2070.

Can’t help but think AMD have an ace up their sleeve in the form of a faster undisclosed card.
 
Bluntwrapped said:
Part of me wonders (a hopeful part) if AMD are deliberately downplaying Navi by only making one comparison - to a 2070.

Can’t help but think AMD have an ace up their sleeve in the form of a faster undisclosed card.
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Well the card they were demoing was the RX 3070 no? So there will be a 3080.
 
Bluntwrapped said:
Part of me wonders (a hopeful part) if AMD are deliberately downplaying Navi by only making one comparison - to a 2070.

Can’t help but think AMD have an ace up their sleeve in the form of a faster undisclosed card.
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To be honest, Computex was just a teaser for everything, i.e. the bigger SKUs for Ryzen and a reveal of "yes, Navi does exist as working silicon and is built into a card". There's another Next Horizon event at E3 (June 10th) which should talk more about the gaming-focussed stuff, that's where I'm expecting more Navi details and the 6-core Ryzens. So I don't think the single Navi comparison to the 2070 was any kind of deflection (good or bad), I think it was purely "yes yes yes, here it bloody is. It exists".

As to a faster card? Probably that Navi 20 but that won't be until next year apparently.
 
willhub said:
Well the card they were demoing was the RX 3070 no? So there will be a 3080.
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No. Well, we have no idea. AMD showed something called the RX 5700. What's actually inside that Navi die and how it aligns to the leaked specs over the past months remains to be seen.

All we could say is if the RX 5700 is pitched at the 2070 then that would make it the top Navi 10 product (using the leaks as a guide), and the only thing faster will be something based on Navi 20.
 
LePhuronn said:
No. Well, we have no idea. AMD showed something called the RX 5700. What's actually inside that Navi die and how it aligns to the leaked specs over the past months remains to be seen.

All we could say is if the RX 5700 is pitched at the 2070 then that would make it the top Navi 10 product (using the leaks as a guide), and the only thing faster will be something based on Navi 20.
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That's what I meant 5700, confusing NV numbers, one can reasonably expect a higher tier 3800 given numbering schemes such as RX 570 / 570. HD7870/HD7970.
 
willhub said:
That's what I meant 5700, confusing NV numbers, one can reasonably expect a higher tier 3800 given numbering schemes such as RX 570 / 570. HD7870/HD7970.
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Oh I don't doubt there will be a 5800 series and maybe even a 5900 series, but I suspect if this 5700 class is pitched at RTX 2070 then it'll be the top Navi 10 part, and the only way up from there is Navi 20 which (apparently) isn't in production yet.

I think I'll have to be careful when searching for 5770 waterblocks, I mean HD 5770 not RX 5770 :D (and yes, I know it's an ages-old card, but the project is purely aesthetic modding practice :p )
 
willhub said:
That's what I meant 5700, confusing NV numbers, one can reasonably expect a higher tier 3800 given numbering schemes such as RX 570 / 570. HD7870/HD7970.
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worth remembering that the RX590 is just a slightly more refined and overclocked RX580, which is just a more refined and overclocked RX480. Can't really guess anything based on the names, they (and Nvidia) change the numbering schemes all the time, While it would be nice to think there may be a bigger chip it could just as easily be "5000 series to commemorate their 50th year and 7 because its 7nm" and all of them are called RX5700 and we get a cut down one called something stupid like RX5700 lite
 
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