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Hey guys this is very important, my friend has a 2080ti and I bought a 2080 a few days ago.
When my card arrived we spoke on discord and overclocked our cards together, we were hitting high clocks and good memory overclocks.
Skip to last night when we both recieved driver updates from nvidia and or windows updates.
Now our cards seem nerfed, hitting much lower boosts and not reaching even 50% of the overclocks that are previously possible.
Is this something that is possible or are we paranoid?
Is anyone else experiencing this?

Running 430.86 on my 2080Ti, with the latest Win 10 1903 updates, no problems here with a modest overclock.

Not using GeForce Experience or whatever it’s called though.
 
What are you talking about? What lies?

Didn't Jenson Jacket say the RTX series was up to 6 times faster that the 10 series equivalent. That's pretty misleading regardless of some phantom ray tracing benchmark that on a good day could back that up. How they get away with it is releasing these statements outside the UK & EU and then let the ******** permeate via Tech News. Notice how UK retailers don't repeat that statement and good luck if they did....
 
Didn't Jenson Jacket say the RTX series was up to 6 times faster that the 10 series equivalent. That's pretty misleading regardless of some phantom ray tracing benchmark that on a good day could back that up. How they get away with it is releasing these statements outside the UK & EU and then let the ******** permeate via Tech News. Notice how UK retailers don't repeat that statement and good luck if they did....
Would that fall foul of UK law? "Up to" don't forget.

You always know that the headline figure is some outlier benchmark (that few people care about). I don't think nV are alone in that btw. It's pretty standard practice.

Besides, you don't trust the salesman to give you an accurate picture... you wait for reviews. I'm not sure that qualifies as a lie.

Also by the same token AMD's promotional materials have been utter guff also. Remember "Overclocker's dream"? "Radeon Revolution"? "Poor Volta"? Etc. If you believe the hype and take it as gospel you're going to get stung by both companies.

Reviews are everything.
 
It genuinely astounds me that anyone - excepting the Crown Prince of Saudi Oil Plc - would spend £1500 on a GPU. Any GPU.

I can't fathom how such a thing is even possible.

I genuinely find it amusing...:p

I think at that point in your life you have to have serious chat with yourself...:p
 
Would that fall foul of UK law? "Up to" don't forget.

You always know that the headline figure is some outlier benchmark (that few people care about). I don't think nV are alone in that btw. It's pretty standard practice.

Besides, you don't trust the salesman to give you an accurate picture... you wait for reviews. I'm not sure that qualifies as a lie.

Also by the same token AMD's promotional materials have been utter guff also. Remember "Overclocker's dream"? "Radeon Revolution"? "Poor Volta"? Etc. If you believe the hype and take it as gospel you're going to get stung by both companies.

Reviews are everything.


And some on here pre ordered the 2080ti removing their £1300 from their bank account...providing interest in the etailors bank account even before the reviews....

This is like a heroin addict not caring about the quality of his hit...and taking a gamble on anything even if it’s laced with powered glass...

To not have any self control and blindly buy into ignorance just shows the level of their intellect.
 
Running 430.86 on my 2080Ti, with the latest Win 10 1903 updates, no problems here with a modest overclock.

Not using GeForce Experience or whatever it’s called though.
These were overclocks of 130 on the core and 700 on the memory running perfectly, then after the updates both of us couldn't go over 50 and 500
 
Come on guys, lets be fair, the really old Acorn Archimedes era games should work fine at 120+ FPS 4K with VR. It's only Quake 2 that really tests the mettle of current gen RTX cards. :P
 
Also by the same token AMD's promotional materials have been utter guff also. Remember "Overclocker's dream"? "Radeon Revolution"? "Poor Volta"? Etc. If you believe the hype and take it as gospel you're going to get stung by both companies.

Reviews are everything.

On "Poor Volta".... When was the last time you saw the benchmarks of the Titan V?
The huge behemoth used on the Titan was barely 30% faster than the GTX1080Ti for 5x the money.

While it's bigger V100 sibling, wasn't that much faster than the Vega 64 on TensorFlow. A card cost 1/10 of the money back in 2017 and 1/20th today.

As for Vega as overclocking card, yeah it is my friend. Thats the first card this century, which we had so much tweaking to play with, instead of moving a slider and pray it doesn't crash.
 
On "Poor Volta".... When was the last time you saw the benchmarks of the Titan V?
The huge behemoth used on the Titan was barely 30% faster than the GTX1080Ti for 5x the money.

While it's bigger V100 sibling, wasn't that much faster than the Vega 64 on TensorFlow. A card cost 1/10 of the money back in 2017 and 1/20th today.

As for Vega as overclocking card, yeah it is my friend. Thats the first card this century, which we had so much tweaking to play with, instead of moving a slider and pray it doesn't crash.
What does any of that have to do with anything at all that I said?

And you're applying the "overclocker's dream" promise to Vega, why? Do you recall what cards that phrase was applied to by AMD? Hint: it wasn't Vega.

It was a card that couldn't overclock at all, lol. Hence, AMD are just as guilty of "lying" in their promotional materials.
 
What does any of that have to do with anything at all that I said?

And you're applying the "overclocker's dream" promise to Vega, why? Do you recall what cards that phrase was applied to by AMD? Hint: it wasn't Vega.

It was a card that couldn't overclock at all, lol. Hence, AMD are just as guilty of "lying" in their promotional materials.

Like it "just works"?
 
It genuinely astounds me that anyone - excepting the Crown Prince of Saudi Oil Plc - would spend £1500 on a GPU. Any GPU.

I can't fathom how such a thing is even possible.

I do agree with your point in principal, but would like to add that there are reasons for someone to buy a GPU at that price. It just so happens that Raytracing in it's current form isn't one of them. :p

Example: when 980s launched I bought 2 for SLI and put them under water. £1500 right there. Dare I say it; they just worked.
 
It genuinely astounds me that anyone - excepting the Crown Prince of Saudi Oil Plc - would spend £1500 on a GPU. Any GPU.

I can't fathom how such a thing is even possible.

It genuinely astounds me why people are always so concerned about what others spend on a hobby. I wouldn't dream of spending what some do on a push-bike, amplifier, phone, car etc but good luck to them. This comment says more about you I think than anyone spending 1500 on a GPU.
 
It genuinely astounds me why people are always so concerned about what others spend on a hobby. I wouldn't dream of spending what some do on a push-bike, amplifier, phone, car etc but good luck to them. This comment says more about you I think than anyone spending 1500 on a GPU.
I think you need to look at value for money. A push bike at that sort of price will be so far ahead of a push bike at 500 quid that it would be worth it as such. The 2080ti compared to the 2080 is not worth the extra charge.

Its just not worth it and that is the general consensus.

Yes people can spend their money on what they like but when you have such a huge amount of people thinking that it isn't worth it then you really have to question nvidias pricing
 
I think you need to look at value for money. A push bike at that sort of price will be so far ahead of a push bike at 500 quid that it would be worth it as such. The 2080ti compared to the 2080 is not worth the extra charge.

Its just not worth it and that is the general consensus.

Yes people can spend their money on what they like but when you have such a huge amount of people thinking that it isn't worth it then you really have to question nvidias pricing

The £500 push bike will get you where you need to go the same as the £1500 one, which is being generous looking at what I know people have spent on bikes, but some will spend 3-4k on a bike as it's their hobby and can afford it. I find it odd someone can post on a hobby forum and not fathom that everyone is working in a different budget bracket and we all spend what we want and can afford on our hobby. It's essentially sour grapes no matter how many times someone posts "I could buy 10 if I wanted".
 
It genuinely astounds me that anyone - excepting the Crown Prince of Saudi Oil Plc - would spend £1500 on a GPU. Any GPU.

I can't fathom how such a thing is even possible.
In a professional capacity, such as a Quadro card, I can understand a costly gpu has its benefits/requirements. But, I agree with your sentiment regarding these gaming cards - paying 2-3 x the rest of the computer cost, just for the gpu, and only to play games... the world is crazy...

I remember wincing at the cost of a Voodoo 2 (£120) in 1998, just for fancy 3d graphics... I also had to think long and hard before paying for my 980ti, which i think was about £500. I have the disposible to buy a 2080ti, but I just can't justify half the cost for a gpu...

In some respects I cant work out the target demographic for these cards... Who has this level of disposable income for a gpu for gaming?!? Sure there are exceptions, but for the norm, who can afford these cards? Students (and for a few years after graduation) are too riddled with debt, so they’re ruled out. So, I can only guess it’s the 30-45 yr olds? Who probably aren’t the biggest of gamers, but almost wistfully wished they still were. Finally have some decent disposable cash so want to treat themselves for the odd game one night in the week? So, how many of these cards are sat in pcs barely doing a % of their ability?

Or, is this just credit nation, and people chucking them on a loan without considering the value of the price…
 
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