AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Orange Nexus]

FYI

https://www.overclock.net/forum/10-...echnical-matisse-not-really.html#post28029190

 

[awaybreaktoday]

What if you like to run a twitch stream and a load of browser tabs in the background. 5% gaming performance loss for a ton more multitasking at a lower price and power consumption makes the 3900x the real no brainer.

I was about to get 9900k, but them thought about these extras..... but i am lucky work is paying for my new purchase..... whats best ram to go for if wanting 32GB of Ram, motherboard Gigabyte master X570, cpu 3900x....

 

[awaybreaktoday]

He said Gaming dear boy.

Oh well amd...maybe next time

Having discord alone running in backgroud knocks down FPS while gaming.....

 

[Orange Nexus]

I was about to get 9900k, but them thought about these extras..... but i am lucky work is paying for my new purchase..... whats best ram to go for if wanting 32GB of Ram, motherboard Gigabyte master X570, cpu 3900x....

You've been very helpful.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-zen-2-memory-performance-scaling-benchmark/2.html

I recommend 3600 CL16 or CL17. Even the cheapest will work but if you can find an 8 Pack, go with that.

 

[Boomstick777]

Blown away by the 3700x and 3900X tbh. What AMD have achieved in a couple of years with Ryzen is amazing.

 

[jigger]

I've priced up a new bare-bones build and it's £1,032! 3900x, Asus Prime, 16GB 8Pac 3600 RAM, £130 1tb NVMe SSD and £50 500GB SATA SSD. When I bought my then the-bees-knees 4770K kit it was only £650 PCs have got so bloomin' expensive. I can wait for B550s (hopefully)...

But you literally are getting 3x the CPU, and in desktop terms a bottomless pit of processing power. Back in the 4770k days a system with that kind of processing power would have cost £20k? Probably more TBH.

 

[Kashinoda]

Is there much information on performance running anything other than CL14/3200 or CL16/3600?

I found this on ComputerBase.de but it doesn't specify timings or if those 'applications' also include games.





Thinking of saving a few £ and getting some CL15/3000 memory instead.

 

[ben90]

Tested with 3600mhz ram on both platforms.

 

[deuse]

Having discord alone running in backgroud knocks down FPS while gaming.....

Your PC must be playing up in that case. I used to run discord(now left) with no ill affects while gaming.
Although my 9700K is running at 5.2 while gaming

 

[jigger]

Blown away by the 3700x and 3900X tbh. What AMD have achieved in a couple of years with Ryzen is amazing.

Yeah if you told me a few years ago that you could have this level of CPU and build it desktop I would have probably laughed. If you told me you could have this for desktop money, in an ITX format and power it from a 200watt PSU I would have thought you was mad.

 

[awaybreaktoday]

@8 Pack
which 3600MHz memory setup on gigabyte master?
4x8GB or 2x16gb

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Tested with 3600mhz ram on both platforms.

Added to the review thread - I missed that one!

 

[jigger]

Tested with 3600mhz ram on both platforms.

A lot of game engines fall apart at very high frame rates.

 

[awaybreaktoday]

Your PC must be playing up in that case. I used to run discord(now left) with no ill affects while gaming.
Although my 9700K is running at 5.2 while gaming

I noticed a 2%-4% drop in FPS, also same percentage drop cinebench R15 and R20 on a 9900k.....


ah disabling hardware acceleration fixes it....

 

[ben90]

A lot of game engines fall apart at very high frame rates.

Yeah I missed where he explained that - which is indeed what happened.

 

[8 Pack]

@8 Pack
which 3600MHz memory setup on gigabyte master?
4x8GB or 2x16gb

Both was fine. I would run 2x16 though I think 3200mhz. Eff dropped with 4 dimms.

 

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[humbug]

CS:GO basically at 4.3Ghz the 3900X, 3700X and will be the case for the 3600 are 4% slower than an all core 5Ghz 9900K.

And look at the difference between Ryzen 2000 and 3000, that's a huge lift in performance for this game.

 

[nhornby51743]

Not at all. In a year it probably falls behind. As soon as PS5 / XBN are out, it's likely curtains. It will be like how Intel fared vs Ryzen 1, but worse.

Plus you can expect more security related performance downgrades.

Plus, most of the reviews you're seeing do not have results for the Intel chips on patched W10 / firmware ...

Plus, you'll actually be able to upgrade to Ryzen 4.

I can't imagine in the slightest that 8 cores and 16 threads if the 9900k is going to be a issue in the next few years. Games barely scratch the surface of my 9700k.

 

[DragonQ]

So it looks like with an aftermarket cooler you're gonna get somewhere between 4.0-4.1 GHz in high core count applications with PBO2. Expected overclock with an R7 3700X is ~4.3 GHz but it doesn't help performance hugely, whilst upping power consumption and heat output significantly. I think unless you're doing heavy productivity tasks, not manually overclocking is generally the best option for most users.