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Navi 20 is the Nvidia killer

I'll believe it when I see it. With each new release AMD drops 1 step in the hierarchy for the GPUs where it can compete, and without feature-parity. That doesn't inspire any confidence. Essentially they can compete around the console-level for which they design, but anything high-end, it's just not there. I'll be shocked if they can even equal a 2080 ti 2 years after the latter's release. That's pretty meh.
 
It would be good to be true but no one can kill nvidia. It's impossible...

AMD must first begin focusing on how exactly to gain at least some market share, and then write such clic-bait headlines... lol
 
4K8KW10 said:
It would be good to be true but no one can kill nvidia. It's impossible...

AMD must first begin focusing on how exactly to gain at least some market share, and then write such clic-bait headlines... lol
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In the same way Kodak would never fail I guess... Sorry where are kodak now? No business is full proof.
 
4K8KW10 said:
It would be good to be true but no one can kill nvidia. It's impossible...

AMD must first begin focusing on how exactly to gain at least some market share, and then write such clic-bait headlines... lol
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I’m sure technically they’re perfectly capable of delivering a part that could leave current Nvidia products dead in the water. But can they do it at an affordable cost, that’s the difficulty.

Would be great for us, not sure they’ll do it though.
 
Poneros said:
With each new release AMD drops 1 step in the hierarchy for the GPUs where it can compete, and without feature-parity.
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Unusable ray tracing in a handful of games and AI edge smoothing (that only works in a handful of games) that's not as good as AMD's toggle switch? "Features"
 
d_brennen said:
Unusable ray tracing in a handful of games and AI edge smoothing (that only works in a handful of games) that's not as good as AMD's toggle switch? "Features"
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Game support is limited, no doubt, but in the games that do support it it's very much a useable feature and delivers truly revolutionary visual fidelity. DLSS is crap atm, no doubt, but RT is the important part. As well as Adaptive shading! Also limited support atm, but it's a great feature that more than delivers on its promises (and again - unavailable on AMD).

You simply cannot enjoy such visual spectacles on AMD no matter the card(s), and that's a (sad) fact:

 
RT a bit premature and not really a good buy for consumers right now but it really is the future and had to start somewhere and better to put pressure on developers to get onboard early so when the hardware is ready - which shouldn't be long now - the games are there.

DLSS though meh - seems completely the wrong end of the stick in terms of how the hardware estate could be put to use to provide enhanced visuals and better performance... though by what I'm guessing is happy coincidence it looks like some of the development of DLSS was useful in refining the denoiser being used with path tracing to provide ray tracing at anything close to feasible performance levels without completely meh quality.

I can't see Navi being an nVidia killer - it might put some pressure on nVidia timetable wise but architecture wise they are atleast 2 evolutions ahead of AMD right now.
 
.....until Nvidia kill it with their next release...or before it even comes out!

You do realise the 2xxx series has been out for quite a while now right?
 
I can't stand these gossip YouTube channels with secret sources that know nothing.

Whatever AMD release Nvidia will have a response you can bet your life on that. Unless NAVI20 is 30% faster than 2080Ti which is highly unlikely.
 
Poneros said:
That is your opinion and not shared by many people (if at all - outside of just being contrarian).
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nvidia are cheaters.




This is what they present as classic example but is just a stupid exaggeration.



How is the last image better than the last but one? :D



 
Poneros said:
That is your opinion and not shared by many people (if at all - outside of just being contrarian).
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I agree with him though.

You seem to have forgotten that the point of RT is realistic/photo-realistic objects, scenes, etc. We are no were near that for gaming. This is why you can play Metro without RT and won't get the sense that you missed anything.

Right now RT only slightly enhances the game engine's IQ. But it's no where near the true unadulterated purpose of what RT is actually used for. If you want to start somewhere then start there, not here.


This is what console gamers are getting yet it far and beyond closer to any form of photo-realism then anything Nvidia promoted to date. And to me, that's sad!

Probably why AMD has kept quiet about it. LOL.
 
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Every time this hype train inevitably derails.

Would love for AMD to target the higher tier PC GPU gaming market, but they just won't and I think we all know it. Their bread and butter are the low to midrange market, and of course the console market (with a few smatterings of workstation GPUs). Is it cost-effective to cater for that 1% of the PC gaming market just for bragging rights? I highly doubt it.
 
"Big Navi" will come out and then the 2080BigTi Super Dooper Wooper will come out offering 30% more power for around £10 more.
 
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