Rotherham child sex abuse: Another Five jailed for exploiting girls

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want to know why Pakistani men like to sleep with underage white girls?
Firstly, the vulnerable ones are available and easily coerced into performing sexual acts they don't get at home.
Secondly, Pakistani brides are usually virgins and quite chaste by virtue of their upbringing - hence they don't like to do what the old man wants at home - see point above.
Thirdly, rape is an acceptable way of chastising/controlling women for Pakistani men - having been friends for one a long time he confirmed this.
So it's a cultural thing, not religious.
My daughter is good friends with a somali muslim woman who openly calls the Pakistani men in Manchester for what they are when they start offering cigarettes or drinks - opportunist rapists.
 
What type of evidence are these people convicted with? The word of the victims or cctv/phone logs etc?
 
NVP said:
What type of evidence are these people convicted with? The word of the victims or cctv/phone logs etc?
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From previous reading on it it was essentially victims statements where multiple victims were found to correlate. They also had phone logs which is what tied a lot more people in.
 
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"Kirklees grooming gang: Police arrest 44 suspects over sexual abuse of girls in Yorkshire"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-child-sex-abuse-police-arrests-a8968501.html

The complainants were aged between 12 and 16 at the time :(

Wish the gov could take away their citizenship.
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I used to work with a bloke from up in Huddersfield before I was aware of this stuff. Always got the impression he overly controlled his two daughters and was a “bit racist” in some of his comments on not letting his daughters nears taxis, takeaways and the like. I even mentioned it to my Mrs as it seemed strange at the time, me not knowing all of this was going on in the background.

I get exactly where he was coming from now.
 
FoxEye said:
Aww man, those damn white British. If only they'd all die, right?

What did the white British ever do for us?
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Missing a bit out there aren't you? Guess being an incel is so normal for your type it doesn't even register :p:p:p

I'm white and British, I just don't meet the other criteria of this forums main poster make up.
 
Dis86 said:
From previous reading on it it was essentially victims statements where multiple victims were found to correlate. They also had phone logs which is what tied a lot more people in.
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So potentially you could stitch some people up, if they fit the profile?
 
NVP said:
So potentially you could stitch some people up, if they fit the profile?
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Good luck attempting to find multiple correlating believable people who won't break under questioning who are independent and also match phone records....

Not realistic at all, but then I don't live in a world where no stretch is too far when it comes to doubting rape victims.
 
Wow... who's doubting rape victims?

Edit: oh I see, you think my question was casting doubt on the victims? No, it was more in jest about setting up people you don't like.

Are you always angry?
 
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NVP said:
What type of evidence are these people convicted with? The word of the victims or cctv/phone logs etc?
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Extensive social services records where it was written down what was happening, medical records listing abortions/health problems, police records where they were caught in the act, phenomenonal amounts of phone records where they bragged about it, statements of family and friends etc. It was an open secret for years, it took the girls to support complaints to finally get convictions
 
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That's more what was expected - where have you read this? Most times these articles crop up theres not much in the details, just naming and shaming and sometimes describing what they were accused/charged with the occasional victim story.
 
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I was consulted as part of a panel to discuss prosecution strategies for some cases in the South East which meant having an oversight of the Yorkshire based cases.

Each case was unique in that each defendant had their own defence claims, but overall the evidence was overwhelming, hence why you are yet to see any successful appeals.
 
Mike9000 said:
I used to work with a bloke from up in Huddersfield before I was aware of this stuff. Always got the impression he overly controlled his two daughters and was a “bit racist” in some of his comments on not letting his daughters nears taxis, takeaways and the like. I even mentioned it to my Mrs as it seemed strange at the time, me not knowing all of this was going on in the background.

I get exactly where he was coming from now.
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Same kind of thing was happening in Birmingham and Dudley.
I kept my daughter away from them. And now she thanks me.
 
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