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5700XT Nitro+ or Red Devil

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So I've been watching a few YouTube reviews on these cards and essentially they seem the same except that maybe the Red Devil has a better implemented version of the silent BIOS than the Nitro+. Both have a zero RPM fan 60c mode. Sapphire pulls more power so not as good for keeping PSU quiet, and the reason for slightly louder fans.

But then another video showed some coil whine on the Red Devil so now I'm unsure. I think this would annoy me more than a couple of decibels or whatever it might be on the Nitro+.

Does anyone know if typically the Sapphires have less coil whine than the Powercolors? Or is it just luck?

Cheers
 
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Coil whine can depend on GPU and PSU combinations, it's a bit of a funny one where some GPU's will whine with a specific PSU but not another. sometimes two PSU's from different batches of the same make and model can whine or not, it just sometimes comes down to tolorences on components.
 
Cheers all, that's that then, complete by pot :D

I'm tempted by the Red Devil over the two, purely based on it being a hair widths quieter I think.
 
Mauller said:
Coil whine can depend on GPU and PSU combinations, it's a bit of a funny one where some GPU's will whine with a specific PSU but not another. sometimes two PSU's from different batches of the same make and model can whine or not, it just sometimes comes down to tolorences on components.
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This is very true. I had upgraded to a EVGA PSU and the coil whine on my old gpu stopped. So I know PSU plays a factor.



And just in case you come across this video I suggest you ignore it.
His analyst of the Nitro+ is complete rubbish and contradictory to OEM.
He says that the Nitro board is lower tier then the OEM board then calls it a side grade, back to lower tier. Even though the board has more power phases then OEM, better build quality, can overclock higher then OEM under water, etc. I've seen a few videos of the stock 5700 xt wc and not seen it, on average, going well above 2000Mhz+ like the Nitro, Tiachi/RD.

You can watch it but honestly after a while his contradictions don't add up and will simply confuse you. And remember, this is from Gamer Nexus.
 
EastCoastHandle said:
And just in case you come across this video I suggest you ignore it.
His analyst of the Nitro+ is complete rubbish and contradictory to OEM.
He says that the Nitro board is lower tier then the OEM board then calls it a side grade, back to lower tier. Even though the board has more power phases then OEM, better build quality, can overclock higher then OEM under water, etc. I've seen a few videos of the stock 5700 xt wc and not seen it, on average, going well above 2000Mhz+ like the Nitro, Tiachi/RD.

You can watch it but honestly after a while his contradictions don't add up and will simply confuse you. And remember, this is from Gamer Nexus.
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it has one more phase and its of a lower quality. His analysis isn't rubbish. If you are talking about cards with no overclocks then AIB versions have higher power limits as standard hence the higher clocks.
 
Ross Thomson said:
it has one more phase and its of a lower quality. His analysis isn't rubbish. If you are talking about cards with no overclocks then AIB versions have higher power limits as standard hence the higher clocks.
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His review is rubbish. He cannot quantify why the card still does better overall from OEM when it comes to the Nitro offering better performance. And the fact that he goes back in forth in trying to define where the card stands clearly indicates his own confusion.

He is saying that the Nitro is both lower and side grade to the OEM. That technically is not correct = rubbish
He says that the Nitro comes with 8 phase which is less then the RD. Yet the nitro still performs on par if not better and cooler = rubbish
He says that the Nitro is a side grade to the OEM yet OEMs don't clock that high, on average even on water = rubbish

His take on the Nitro, when you look at the entire video card, compared to the OEM is rubbish. He says that "his picks" of cards are "better built" (placing the Nitro below the OEM yet call it a side grade) yet his opinion on the OEM "build quality" doesn't translate to better performance. That's where I take issue with his "view".
 
EastCoastHandle said:
His review is rubbish. He cannot quantify why the card still does better overall from OEM when it comes to the Nitro offering better performance. And the fact that he goes back in forth in trying to define where the card stands clearly indicates his own confusion.

He is saying that the Nitro is both lower and side grade to the OEM. That technically is not correct = rubbish
He says that the Nitro comes with 8 phase which is less then the RD. Yet the nitro still performs on par if not better and cooler = rubbish
He says that the Nitro is a side grade to the OEM yet OEMs don't clock that high, on average even on water = rubbish

His take on the Nitro, when you look at the entire video card, compared to the OEM is rubbish. He says that "his picks" of cards are "better built" (placing the Nitro below the OEM yet call it a side grade) yet his opinion on the OEM "build quality" doesn't translate to better performance. That's where I take issue with his "view".
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Let's get you corrected that video is by Buildzoid =Actually Hardcore Overclocking not Steve =Gamer Nexus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Secondly I haven't watched that video, but i'm guessing his analysis shows that the mosfets used aren't quite upto the job of a reference, and his step by step analysis will give current draw capability at temperature thresholds. Just like his usual analysis on Vrm video's. Shock horror Refence Pcb is in his opinion of a higher standard.
This guy whilst not always 100% correct, knows what he is talking about.
 
Davedree said:
Let's get you corrected that video is by Buildzoid =Actually Hardcore Overclocking not Steve =Gamer Nexus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Secondly I haven't watched that video, but i'm guessing his analysis shows that the mosfets used aren't quite upto the job of a reference, and his step by step analysis will give current draw capability at temperature thresholds. Just like his usual analysis on Vrm video's. Shock horror Refence Pcb is in his opinion of a higher standard.
This guy whilst not always 100% correct, knows what he is talking about.
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Let get something straight here. It's a buildzoid review posted from Gamer Nexus YT Channel. Something GN has been doing for a while now. If you look at the actual link it will take you to GN.
Having said that. I'm well aware of his prior videos. But this one I do take issue with.

Another thing, it's better to comment regarding this issue once you've actually watched the video. Prefacing that you haven't and still having a huff with me doesn't validate your view.
 
His review is on the PCB. The nitro has not as good powerstages than the reference card but has one more. So it is a sideways move but is slightly worse than reference in terms of efficiency etc. Clearly you have something against gamers nexus which is fair enough but his review isn’t about the frequency the card can get but the pcb.

Like I said above AIB cards have a higher power target and run a bit cooler hence why they hit higher frequencies. Turn the power down on an aib card and it will be limited in core.
 
Ross Thomson said:
His review is on the PCB. The nitro has not as good powerstages than the reference card but has one more. So it is a sideways move but is slightly worse than reference in terms of efficiency etc. Clearly you have something against gamers nexus which is fair enough but his review isn’t about the frequency the card can get but the pcb.

Like I said above AIB cards have a higher power target and run a bit cooler hence why they hit higher frequencies. Turn the power down on an aib card and it will be limited in core.
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That's incorrect.
He also said that the Nitro was also tier below the OEM card after calling it a side grade. Placing the Nitro last of his top 4-5 pcb designs.

The issue is that his view doesn't correlate to the actual performance of the card when compared to his top 4-5 pcb designs. Even GN Nitro review clearly showing it beating all other 5700 XT cards when OC, yes including their hybrid 5700 xt (something that most won't do).

There is a disconnect between looking at the bark of the tree vs the actual tree were there is a whole forest to bring into view here.
 
davidmt83 said:
So I've been watching a few YouTube reviews on these cards and essentially they seem the same except that maybe the Red Devil has a better implemented version of the silent BIOS than the Nitro+. Both have a zero RPM fan 60c mode. Sapphire pulls more power so not as good for keeping PSU quiet, and the reason for slightly louder fans.

But then another video showed some coil whine on the Red Devil so now I'm unsure. I think this would annoy me more than a couple of decibels or whatever it might be on the Nitro+.

Does anyone know if typically the Sapphires have less coil whine than the Powercolors? Or is it just luck?

Cheers
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Who said there is coil whine with Red Devil of any Navi GPU for that matter? I am curious because 3 months first time I hear someone talking about coil whine with Navi GPU in same sentence.
 
EastCoastHandle said:
That's incorrect.
He also said that the Nitro was also tier below the OEM card after calling it a side grade. Placing the Nitro last of his top 4-5 pcb designs.

The issue is that his view doesn't correlate to the actual performance of the card when compared to his top 4-5 pcb designs. Even GN Nitro review clearly showing it beating all other 5700 XT cards when OC, yes including their hybrid 5700 xt (something that most won't do).

There is a disconnect between looking at the bark of the tree vs the actual tree were there is a whole forest to bring into view here.
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He said it was the least worst compared to the reference with only the RD and strix being better. I think you’ve clearly miss-understood the point of that video.
 
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