Oven chips are healthy, it's potato.
What the Health Documentary on Netlifx.
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Oven chips are healthy, it's potato.
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That doesn’t necessarily follow. While you can have them as part of a healthy diet for sure, chips aren’t generally a healthy food to be eaten frequently.
I mean proper crisps are potatoes too.
Vegans eating processed crap are just as fat and unhealthy as everyone else. And there's nothing worse than a delusional militant vegan, they do more harm than good for their cause.
'Monkeys don't eat meat!'
'Yes they do, here's the proof.'
'Yes but...'
I can accept the meat=bad argument, from an animal welfare point of view, but unless you are going to live on nothing but home grown organic produce then you're not really doing any better than anyone else.
'Monkeys don't eat meat!'
'Yes they do, here's the proof.'
'Yes but...'
I can accept the meat=bad argument, from an animal welfare point of view, but unless you are going to live on nothing but home grown organic produce then you're not really doing any better than anyone else.
You were doing well until you mentioned the chicken burger you monster.
Ingesting meat is deadly - its true because it was in a Netflix documentary....
Don't anyone dare question the claims though, apparently questions trigger people.
it's got everything to do with you trying to look clever, i've explained myself several times over and you're still trying to play your daft game of one-upmanship with a very limited range of responses.
and what problem of my own is it, not really a problem as such now is it - there's another little attempt at an insult that's fallen flat, trying to imply the problem lies with me. you go right ahead and try and look like a clever clogs all you want with your point/question that you wish or claim was going over my head, but when you're trying to do it off the back of petulant little insults like that i will respond.
so stop posting replies then. it's not that difficult. while you keep up the pretence for you replies i will keep responding to them.
so i'll ask you again, are you done or are you going to keep whining on?
edit: aww that's cute - slipping an insult into a different post. triggered. lol. wait what's that, you want to reply saying that wasn't aimed at me and i'm being too sensitive? i'm having a blast fella. i'll say it again (and again and again) you're obvious and predictable and all you're left with are insults.
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I'm surprised this hasn't descended into other thread on SC about veganism.
If this documentary is anything like that vegan propaganda puff piece "the game changers" I'll give it a miss. There was more misinformation in that than Goebbels diary. I'm actually all for a reduction in meat and refined carbohydrates sugars in our diets for a number of reasons. But when these fanatics start spouting hyperbolic nonsense it just descends into farce.
I was a vegetarian for around 16 years so I think I can speak with a bit of integrity about it. I switched back to meat for health reasons and all those I know who are still veggie or vegan certainly don't look that healthy.
If this documentary is anything like that vegan propaganda puff piece "the game changers" I'll give it a miss. There was more misinformation in that than Goebbels diary. I'm actually all for a reduction in meat and refined carbohydrates sugars in our diets for a number of reasons. But when these fanatics start spouting hyperbolic nonsense it just descends into farce.
I was a vegetarian for around 16 years so I think I can speak with a bit of integrity about it. I switched back to meat for health reasons and all those I know who are still veggie or vegan certainly don't look that healthy.
No, unlike you' I'm being pretty straight up with my responses - I was here to discuss the topic, I asked a legitimate question and you chose to troll me and for some reason you're continuing to do so? I'm not attempting to insult you - I pointed out that you'd probably missed the point but supposedly it was deliberate on your part.
Still not sure what you actually want from me here - perhaps you could cut to the chase and make that clearer in your next reply?
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I'm not sure you're in the best place to comment on diet related matters @ttaskmaster given you're clearly still a bit miffed at your incredibly dubious claims being called out re: <1000 calories for a month and "lost nothing" in the other thread...
There is one thing for sure - people who have odd beliefs, whether that be diet claims that apparent break the laws of the universe or not getting the point when questions are asked of blatantly vague conspiracy theories do seem to get rather hung up about it after having been called out.
I think some basic numeracy and some basic science education might help in most of these cases but meh...
I think most people are aware that the claims laid out in the OP are highly questionable and it has become apparent that this documentary has been panned for various reasons.
There is one thing for sure - people who have odd beliefs, whether that be diet claims that apparent break the laws of the universe or not getting the point when questions are asked of blatantly vague conspiracy theories do seem to get rather hung up about it after having been called out.
I think some basic numeracy and some basic science education might help in most of these cases but meh...
I think most people are aware that the claims laid out in the OP are highly questionable and it has become apparent that this documentary has been panned for various reasons.
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Not watched it but might at some point just out of curiosity.
Humans are omnivores we evolved eating fruits nuts and berries with meat on occasion when it was caught (maybe a few times a month).
As it is today we eat far too much meat I agree, but it shouldn't be completely avoided. Should science allow us to synthesize meat products that have the positives of actual meat without the negatives (animal farming) then I see no reason to stop.
One cannot survive solely on eating vegetables without some intervention (B12 etc)
Humans are omnivores we evolved eating fruits nuts and berries with meat on occasion when it was caught (maybe a few times a month).
As it is today we eat far too much meat I agree, but it shouldn't be completely avoided. Should science allow us to synthesize meat products that have the positives of actual meat without the negatives (animal farming) then I see no reason to stop.
One cannot survive solely on eating vegetables without some intervention (B12 etc)
Yup, cutting down meat consumption - going back to meat as a luxury would probably be good. Ditto to cutting down on sugary drinks/snacks and cutting down on junk food.
Vegetarians and vegans can be healthier on average thanks to meat eaters including the bulk of people who scoff junk food etc..
But a fairly sensible diet can certainly include fish, dairy and lean meat.
I couldn't do that, personally. To me, a meal isn't a meal without a bit of meat on the plate otherwise it's just a salad.
My partner is a big advocate for meat free days but I'm just not keen on the idea. So to compromise we've cut down how much red meat we eat. Increased chicken and fish intake.
My partner is a big advocate for meat free days but I'm just not keen on the idea. So to compromise we've cut down how much red meat we eat. Increased chicken and fish intake.
yes, all you've done is thrown insults and that's because that is all you have in your limited vocabulary armoury in order to attempt to maintain that you are correct and clever. you obviously won't or maybe you can't admit that but that's precisely what you've done with your silly little 'it's over your head' comments. over and over again i've told you what my initial reply was, a joke, nothing more nothing less. probably a bit facetious but a joke nonetheless given how it was possible to use part of the sentence you quoted to answer the question you asked albeit without offering much more detail - if you can't see the humour in that then that is definitely on you. over and over again all you've come back with are insults, veiled yes, but insults none the less. you've even tried in an unrelated post to suggest that your question triggered me or are you going to try and claim innocence there too. how was a i triggered by your question? i'll wholeheartedly admit i am 100% triggered by your continued attempts at maintaining your 'position' of being 'right' by using insults. but that's your thing. time and time again over myriad of threads that is what you fall back on whether you're right or wrong, petulant veiled insults that just fall shy of what the moderation team will act on to try and promote your position of superiority.
but just to quickly recap.....
you asked a question
i replied in what i thought was an obviously jokey fashion highlighting that part of the question could be answered in the sentence you quoted (note that i did apologise if it wasn't as obvious as it appeared to me to be)
you missed the joke (even though i tried to highlight it with an emoji or 2) and immediately jumped in to your usual confrontational position
you continued to ask the exact same question in the exact same way (more or less)
i replied in kind
you eventually reworded your question and i acknowledged that (and again tried to be lighthearted about it)
but that wasn't enough for you.....you had to reply and chuck in your first attempt at your usual veiled insult albeit worded slightly differently to normal....'Hopefully the further illustration has let the penny drop'
you've then went on to throw the full gamut of your childish insults at me to try, i can only guess, to embarrass or 'trigger' me and make yourself appear clever and intelligent in the process (grammar/spell checking - oh the irony, trying to insinuate stupidity etc)
and now you want to fall back on the 'i was only asking a question'
^^right there sums up exactly what has gone here and i think most will know who is acting weird, is offended or is just being downright daft.
and again in a seperate post still trying to suggest 'some' people not getting your question. how many times do you want me to tell you i 'got' your question. it was pretty obvious what you were trying to do after all.
and regarding some people needing basic science education, that may well be true but i think you need an education in social interaction. i guarantee (though you'll undoubtedly claim otherwise) you do not interact with people in real life like this. if you wouldn't say it in real life don't type it is a good mantra to live by. how many times in real life would you repeatedly tell a stranger or even a friend that your question had went over their head even after they explained it hadn't? would you question their grammar? how many times would you slip in a veiled insult? how many times before you insulted them to the point you talked yourself into a slap in the mouth? assuming you haven't had numerous slaps in the mouth during your adulthood i'll stand by my claim you don't behave this way in real life and instead use this forum to bolster you self esteem by interacting with people in the way you do.
you come across as a petulant individual with an almost narcissistic need to appear right or intelligent and that is not an insult it's a statement of fact that can be backed up with a quick look at your posts in this thread to me and indeed other interactions with others in various other threads.
i imagine this post is going to end up referred to a mod (if indeed our conversation hasn't already been) and to them i apologise profusely but you are not going to let up from your position of casting insults under the guise of 'i was only asking a question' equally i am not going to stop replying to and calling out your veiled insults as politely as i can without, hopefully, stepping over the mark myself.
again if you've nothing more to add don't bother replying. though doubtless you'll find some more nonsense to repeat. keep it short if you can. it makes replying to your tediousness much easier.
@Thekwango
I'm not particularly interested in a big wall of text that has little to do with the thread. Again I replied to this thread to try and discuss the topic itself - it appeared that you had missed the point though apparently you were joking/just trolling me - either way the effect was the same - your posts completely missed the point and you just carried on and haven't stopped since then.
What do you actually want from me here/why do you keep on quoting me when you had no intention of having any form of sensible discussion re: the question I asked in the first place?
It seems like you've got some sort of chip on your shoulder/problem with me personally and that has driven you to hound me with replies - might I suggest that if you've got an issue with me personally then just put me on ignore. I was trying to discuss the topic itself - it isn't clear what you want but I keep on getting notifications from you.
I'm not particularly interested in a big wall of text that has little to do with the thread. Again I replied to this thread to try and discuss the topic itself - it appeared that you had missed the point though apparently you were joking/just trolling me - either way the effect was the same - your posts completely missed the point and you just carried on and haven't stopped since then.
What do you actually want from me here/why do you keep on quoting me when you had no intention of having any form of sensible discussion re: the question I asked in the first place?
It seems like you've got some sort of chip on your shoulder/problem with me personally and that has driven you to hound me with replies - might I suggest that if you've got an issue with me personally then just put me on ignore. I was trying to discuss the topic itself - it isn't clear what you want but I keep on getting notifications from you.
@dowie - tagging me instead of quoting so you can move to a different tact to still try and be ‘right’ ? So sad.
Along with the faux shock, the poor me what have I done wrong reply, have arrived right on cue.
I’ll gladly stop quoting you. You stop slipping cowardly insults into your posts when you’ve misunderstood something and that’s all good for me.
Do I have an issue with you, of course I do. I thought I’d made that pretty clear and why. You not pick up in that already? In case you haven’t, it’s not your inability to accept when you are in the wrong. It’s not even your inability to be gracious. It’s your inability to post a counter reply without the need for the veiled insults. So yes, I do have a problem with you. But you cease doing that, at least towards me and we’re good.
Along with the faux shock, the poor me what have I done wrong reply, have arrived right on cue.
I’ll gladly stop quoting you. You stop slipping cowardly insults into your posts when you’ve misunderstood something and that’s all good for me.
Do I have an issue with you, of course I do. I thought I’d made that pretty clear and why. You not pick up in that already? In case you haven’t, it’s not your inability to accept when you are in the wrong. It’s not even your inability to be gracious. It’s your inability to post a counter reply without the need for the veiled insults. So yes, I do have a problem with you. But you cease doing that, at least towards me and we’re good.
@Thekwango What do you actually want to achieve here - I've had repeated notifications from you? First you completely miss the point then when it is explained to you with a simple example you pretend that the earlier posts were just a joke and now you're repeatedly popping back in to have a go at me?
What do you actually want here?
What do you actually want here?