Opinions on the "small SUV" type cars?
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My Audi A3 1.4 never used a drop over the three years I owned it for, what ever this has to do with SUV's though.
On that topic, I hate and despise them and would only feel the need to purchase one if I was over 70 and my legs didn't work properly...
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Cracking cars, 4wd if needed, decent-ish performance and good mpg.
I can't help but think that there's a whole class of car that exists for people that like tall/comfortable cars, i.e. MPVs.
I have no idea why people who buy SUVs justify their statement by suggesting that a saloon/hatchback can't meet the requirements for additional height/space, when MPVs also exist.
I have no idea why people who buy SUVs justify their statement by suggesting that a saloon/hatchback can't meet the requirements for additional height/space, when MPVs also exist.
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they can have more bump travel afforded by the lower wheel centres relative to body with a larger side wall.
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Do people buy suvs for their aesthetics? If so could someone tell the majority of manufacturers this?
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yep, they know already.
Oh, perhaps they'll act on that knowledge then and stop making monstrosities like the juke or the bentayga?
What does it matter, everyone will be driving electric monstrosities before long. I fully expect our next car (probably a diesel Tiguan Allspace
) will be the last ICE car we get, the next one after that will be some horrible battery thing.
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cos they don’t make the business money?
Don't look at what they have done to the Puma either...
Despite being used as the MPV were used before, most of them don't look as granny-wagon.
MPG won't be better than a estate car. Internal space can be ok or similar.
The selling point, like it or not is about being fashionable. But the higher seating position is a nice thing.
MPG won't be better than a estate car. Internal space can be ok or similar.
The selling point, like it or not is about being fashionable. But the higher seating position is a nice thing.
Yes, that would be the spreadsheet I mentioned. I know it’s more recent, I even mentioned that in a post above. The issue with that data is the number of accidents recorded and the analysis of it. It’ll have some useful data in it, but someone needs to spend the time splitting out all the data into classes and normalizing it against externalities. You can’t just grab a couple of cars and compare the results and claim, well much at all. It’s not how data analysis works.
I also understand what the summary was, I wrote it... It sums up the thread nicely though and pretty much reinforced everything I was arguing... so I reposted it here.
But yes, people should make their own minds up, just avoid the 20 year old data and look at newer analysed data, because SUVs are very different now to what they were 20 years ago (when the idea they were unsafe was actually correct). Or, as I said, do it the correct way and chose a class of car you want to drive, then work out which is safer within that class.
I reckon most of those front wheel drive ones with big wide alloys will be terrible come snow
As long as they have a decent set of all seasons/winters on then they’ll be far better than anything else without equivalent tyres. Realistically the main benefit of the “SUV” style is the ride height, which is beneficial in deeper snow. AWD definitely helps as well, but it’s pretty common now on a lot of lower vehicles too.
What’s the actual benefit of an MPV space wise if you get the equivalent sized vehicle? Besides, looks are a massive part of car ownership...
They’ve been making but ugly saloons for years. But for whatever reason (some, sales have plummeted) people still buy them.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say, even stuff like the Juke (or the Jazz for that matter).
Personally I like sitting up higher than most normal cars so not against SUVs but those I've been in or driven have tended to roll pretty badly to the point I wondered if they were broken. Actually quite seriously considered the X3 as it doesn't roll like the Nissans or Audis but just didn't click with it somehow despite having a nice interior and the 3L engine felt good and apparently good MPG for a 3L. (EDIT: Though I might need to try a 3rd gen one - that was the previous model and from some angles I just couldn't un-see a resemblance to a mk1 Panda and on a mildly off-road track while impressive at times it was also sometimes struggling when it really shouldn't have been).
Wasn't impressed with the "premium" Range Rovers like the Evoque while I don't often have 3-4 passengers or need family friendly features/space they feel a bit lacking in that respect compared to other SUV type vehicles and felt a bit of a step back features wise in general to me despite being strong in 1-2 areas.
I actually ended up with a Nissan Navara Outlaw V6 which wasn't exactly intended but I'd been half tempted to give a pickup a whirl for awhile and while going around looking at SUVs, etc. one of the dealers had one at a good price with fully loaded spec including all the optional upgrades and despite some negatives I will be gutted when the day comes I part with it even if it is upgrading to a newer vehicle.
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MPV's usually badly driven by mums on the school run. No thanks
.Different vehicles for different markets. SUV buyers probably have little interest in an MPV. SUV's appeal more to the outdoorsy types I think? "Go anywhere,nothing can stop me", even if the vehicle never gets used off road.
Car I've owned the longest was an SUV. A great allrounder, including winter driving (4WD). The additional ground clearance came in hand a few times too.
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