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Why are GPUs so expensive?
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For me it's
$400 for 6600 sli
$380 for 5870
$450 for rx290
$750 for 1080ti
$1250 for 2080ti
prices in usd equivalents
graphics card prices have been out of control since 2012 if you ask me.
And now more recently CPU prices are following them.
$200 for AMd 3800x2
$250 for i7 860
$300 for i7 4790k
$350 for i7 8700k
$800 for ryzen 3950x
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I agree about the GPU prices, but don’t think it is fair comparing a 16 core part with a 6 core part. Obviously there will be a price difference. If AMD never came in we would be paying more than double that. I got my 6 core cpu for £175 so cannot complain about value there.
What we need is for 2070$ performance to drop to £250 and 2080 Ti performance to £400 in 2020.
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lolwot?
arguably the best gaming cpu is less than £200 - 3600X it also has 6 cores and 12 threads. which will tear apart any game and it only just launched 2 months back. how much was for instance a 2500K at launch?
CPU's have never been cheaper. so long as you avoid all the ones aimed at people encoding, etc.
as for GPU. a 2070 is only £370 ish. the majority of people playing at 1080p would be blown away by it's performance and again it handles 1440p very well too.
i don't think it's fair to look at the price of a 16 core CPU or a 2080ti. those simply aren't needed for gaming. especially the cpu.
If you look at the parts I listed, most of them were the most expensive/highest level of GPU sold at the time of their launch by their manufacturer.
a 2080ti is over 3 times more expensive than the fastest graphics cards launched in 2009 (the amd HD5870)
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you could say that about anything though.
as in today the most expensive home is £200 million however 50 years ago it was only £750k.
you have to compare power with money.
as in 10 years ago you could buy a 2500K - it has 4 cores and it had x amount of power. it cost y amount
now compare that with a 3600x today. it has 6 cores with x+200% power and costs less.
looking at flagship will never work in a fair comparison because the ceiling is being raised high because there is frankly people out there earning obscene amounts of money who don't care if a GPU costs £500 or £5000.
A CSGO Skin sold for £25K. There are guys out there with CSGO inventories worth over a million pounds. If people are spending that on a virtual item which does nothing but look fancy then what are they prepared to spend on a GPU?
Nvidia could build a £10K GPU and it would sell.
So it's not fair to compare the flagships IMO. Compare pricepoints is much fairer or average systems. If you compare the best value for money then today you get a lot for your money.
Best value for money GPU's right now are:
RTX2060 Super
RTX2070 Super
RX5700 XT
If you look around they can all be had for between £350-400 plus if you have an older GPU to sell take another £100-150 off the price making them quite affordable for GTX1080 Ti performance levels its not too bad
Anything else more powerful & vastly more expensive is just overkill
Most PC games are console ports these 3 GPU's handle anything quite comfortably up to 4K even in many recent games due to how little difference powerful PC's are being used for 
RTX2060 Super
RTX2070 Super
RX5700 XT
If you look around they can all be had for between £350-400 plus if you have an older GPU to sell take another £100-150 off the price making them quite affordable for GTX1080 Ti performance levels its not too bad
Anything else more powerful & vastly more expensive is just overkill
Most PC games are console ports these 3 GPU's handle anything quite comfortably up to 4K even in many recent games due to how little difference powerful PC's are being used for 
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5700 XT is a blinding price right now, up there with the RTX 2070 Super while not costing the earth.
AMD's CPU's are bangers too, great pricing and performance.
It's only the Nvidia stuff that's massivley overpriced at the higher end.
Tbh we've got it pretty good in Q4 19.
AMD's CPU's are bangers too, great pricing and performance.
It's only the Nvidia stuff that's massivley overpriced at the higher end.
Tbh we've got it pretty good in Q4 19.
The house that I am living in, my Dad had it built for £2,000 in the 50s-60s and now its worth about £300 thousand. Crazy
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Best value for money GPU's right now are:
RTX2060 Super
RTX2070 Super
RX5700 XT
If you look around they can all be had for between £350-400 plus if you have an older GPU to sell take another £100-150 off the price making them quite affordable for GTX1080 Ti performance levels its not too bad
Anything else more powerful & vastly more expensive is just overkill
Wrong.
best value is the regular 2070 and then the 5700's. It's only £370 and only 7% slower than a 2070 super yet £100 cheaper.
the 2060 super is more expensive than a 2070 so it's one of the worst buys out there.
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The house that I am living in, my Dad had it built for £2,000 in the 50s-60s and now its worth about £300 thousand. Crazy
exactly comparing flagships when the top end has moved so much is not a fair comparison.
you have to compare price points and take inflation into account as well as the increase in wages over that time. it's not as easy as listing the best GPU's ever made.
Graphics cards yes, but I don't buy it on the CPU front. CPUs have often been expensive for top end. I don't see how you can put 3950x in there (top end part) and then compare with 3800x2 which was by far one of the weakest in the X2 range, would be better off comparing to the Ryzen 3600 or so. I've always spent less than £200 on every CPU I've ever bought, the most expensive being £190 in 2000 (about £315 in today's money).
The contrast with graphics cards I think is that you always have, and still can, get away with a modestly priced midrange CPU, that ~£200 boundary still holds with 3600 or 9600k depending on preference. But GPU is getting out of hand, until a couple of years back you could get something that was 'good enough' for under £250, but the big price rises on top end parts has opened up this awkward gap that is getting filled with midrange cards pushing past the £300 barrier. My current card is the most expensive I've ever bought, and that had to be second hand. You've got a scenario where the 5700xt is winning some plaudits as a 'value option', yet will set you back perhaps more than your cpu, mobo and ram combined.
Yes you are totally wrong
glad you admit it! My MSI RTX 2060 Super Gamer X is faster than a regular RTX2070 & only cost me £395 but as I had sold my older GPU it cost me only £233 to upgrade but even without that money from the old GPU sale @ £395 its a bargain. Not all etailers sell them for £430++! I notice OCUK are now selling Super 2060s sub £350 which is a good price for the performance on offer.When you throw in power consumption the RTX2070 is way higher so is the RX5700XT especially the custom models under heavy load draw a ridiculous amount of power !
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Yes you are totally wrong
When you throw in power consumption the RTX2070 is way higher so is the RX5700XT especially the custom models under heavy load draw a ridiculous amount of power !
There is no way you got a 2080 super for £395 new.
You can't even get a 2070 super for that pruce
Yes you are totally wrong
When you throw in power consumption the RTX2070 is way higher so is the RX5700XT especially the custom models under heavy load draw a ridiculous amount of power !
2080 Super at £395 lol, no such thing!
If there is point me that direction I’ll buy 1000 right now because at £395 we’d sell them at 416 exc vat so £499 inc and be selling 500 a day!
Sorry I meant 2060 Super Gaming X
but I stand by my comments its a great value for money GPU along with the RX5700XT & 2070 Super (although both of those are power hungry under heavy use ). At the end of the day unless you must have extra FPS because your display is 120-144 Hz you cannot even notice most of the time its pointless throwing more than £400-500 at these GPU's I RMAed an MSI £720 2080 Super Gaming X Trio a few weeks ago it was a pointless upgrade for me even @ 4K. RTX enhanced games look very similar to non RTX enhanced games so its not worth it for that to me & trying all the other games I play I found there was zero noticeable difference visually or otherwise between a 3+ years old GTX 1070 & the 2080 Super
so I RMAed got the 2060 Super saved £400 I then spent on other items instead!
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My 2070 super cost me £150 to upgrade to FYI since you decided to bring selling old gpu into the argument also.
Which if it was a valid argument my £150 upgrade would be better than your £233 upgrade using your logic. Since not only was it cheaper it was to a more powerful card to boot.
Also my screen is 165hz and 1440p so I need a 2070 super according to the above.
Which if it was a valid argument my £150 upgrade would be better than your £233 upgrade using your logic. Since not only was it cheaper it was to a more powerful card to boot.
Also my screen is 165hz and 1440p so I need a 2070 super according to the above.