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US kills Iran's General Soleimani
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Nope, that’s what an AA missile does to an aircraft. Most never hit the target, but that’s fine because AA missies are basically very fast, large hand grenades with proximity fuses. They get with X metres of an aircraft and the warhead explodes, showering the aircraft with shrapnel.
Shrapnel makes holes in the aircraft, making it suddenly very unaerodynamic which is usually instantly fatal for a supersonic aircraft. Damaging control surfaces, systems and engines is an added bonus.
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Case closed then.
Having just seen the released images of the remains of a wing there are certainly some strange holes in it. Iran is also refusing to hand the black box over to Boeing. Cover up incoming.
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Like I said, Congreve Rocket! Welcome to the early 19th century!
They probably warned Iraq because they needed to warn everybody that they were not aiming for!
They are fearing for their lives, they cant take the chance of hitting something even when they arent aiming for it, this shows how afraid they are.
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You spin me right 'round, baby, Right 'round like a record, baby, Right 'round, 'round, 'round.
You've done little but moan at vague 'liberals' in this thread over supposed conspiracies, when it's entirely mindful to keep an open opinion in conflicts where both sides have dropped civilian planes out the sky. I doubt we'll ever get a real verdict unless Iran didn't actually do anything wrong.
Ultimately it doesn't matter, no one cares about airlines without US passengers onboard. The real discussion is on what Iran is ACTUALLY going to do in the shadows, this pitiful missile attack isn't even worth dissecting. There is also the fact that they no longer care about retribution over it's Nuclear program, there is now a time limit here because as soon as they achieve a nuclear explosion, they become untouchable.
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According to the news they did and US personnel had enough time to get to bunkers which is why supposedly no US were casualties.
EDIT: According to reports the US supposedly doesn't have advanced anti-air defences at those bases and mostly stood down the capabilities they do have as they could see roughly where the missiles were going to hit.
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you really have to wonder how crazy the iranian leadership are, its not as if they are dealing with a opposition leader who will take the common sense approach and draw lines in the sand,
Trump strikes me as the sort who will escalate things very quickly and something like this missile strike will draw very swift and over the top retribution
basically think of it as the 2 meatheads in the pub spilling each others pints except one is about 5 times the size of the other and wields several big sticks, everyone else in the bar better duck as its going to get very messy very quickly
Trump strikes me as the sort who will escalate things very quickly and something like this missile strike will draw very swift and over the top retribution
basically think of it as the 2 meatheads in the pub spilling each others pints except one is about 5 times the size of the other and wields several big sticks, everyone else in the bar better duck as its going to get very messy very quickly
So the flight was in the air for 2m42sec and the s300 can travel up to 10,000km/h and the plane lost contact at 8km.
That means it takes 3mins for the missle to reach 8km. Doesn't add up, they would have had to fire the moment it took off. Maybe that's how they do it?
That means it takes 3mins for the missle to reach 8km. Doesn't add up, they would have had to fire the moment it took off. Maybe that's how they do it?
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What if the missile was already in the air and it was the planes fault. We keep saying a missile hit it but what if its the planes fault huh? Those poor missiles always get the blame!
I think the plane lost contact at an altitude of only 8000 feet, so it would be vulnerable to pretty much any surface to air missile with literally no warning, but especially a "manpad" and Iran has loads of those.
Hopefully he strikes Iran the same way. The media was all Chicken Little when Reagan was president. They thought he was crazy and would launch an attack on the Soviets at the drop of a hat. Luckily, the Soviets seemed have a similar view of Reagan.
Now, Trump is no Reagan, but I want hostile entities to believe they will be attacked if they mess with the US....I don't consider that a bad thing.
Ah feet not km that would make sense then. Divide by 1.6. So the people firing the missile probably had about 30sec to make the desicion to fire.
You need to remember who you're talking about. This is a theocratic dictatorship, they need to show they will retaliate, regardless of how toothless it was. The real retaliation hasn't even begun i'd hazard.
This is about as much a domestic problem for Khomeini, the clergy and the military as it is a geopolitical one.
I think you are doing the maths wrong - if it was 8km away and a missile was doing 10,000km/h it would take seconds not minutes to close that distance. (It won't be doing that speed though as it won't be maintaining 10,000km/h throughout the entire flight profile).
EDIT: Also doubt that an S-300 missile climbs at 10,000km/h even if it can get close to that speed on a closer to horizontal trajectory.
Considering this happened a few hours after Iran launched it's fireworks at the US, I imagine every air defense unit in Iran was on the highest alert, with very itchy trigger fingers.
It doesn't seem that far fetched to imagine terrified Iranian air-defense personnel, making a big mistake, under pressure of being attacked by the biggest air force in the world.