Is my PSU ok for now? will upgrade in few months

Marlon89

Marlon89

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hey all,

this is kind of bothering me so i thought id ask,
i keep hearing how psu is the most important part of a build well one of them anyway...
so i looked at what psu i have since i bought it last year its working just fine
i know its not the best psu but is this psu ok enough for now for my build?
even tho it is not 80 plus well sort of it does state its 82% efficient with continues watts as well
my power supply is a Antec VP400PC 400 watt here are the specs

https://antec.com/product/power/vp400pc.php

like i said not the best but ok enough for now for my build?
kinda scared itll catch on fire haha but its been working fine
my full specs are

Ryzen 5 1500x 3.5ghz
asus prime a320m-k
16gb ddr4 3200
gtx 1050 ti 4gb
ssd
3 case fans

nothing is OC btw
so i can finally put my mind at rest ;p
 
Using outer vision psu calculator I’m assuming 120mm fans but that’s recommending a 320 watt psu estimates a 270watt draw for what you listed above.

So that’s well within it’s limits.
 
PSU calculators are rubbish. That pc won't come anywhere near 270w and I doubt if it would even hit 200w with the cpu and gpu overclocked. My pc in my siggy only draws a max of 300w (depending on what game I am playing) while gaming. Always check the specs of a psu though. Don't assume that just because it says 400w that it has all of that power on the 12v rail where it's needed most. In the case of the Antec VP400PC it only has 336w across it's dual 12v rails plus it's a low end budget psu that finds itself rated at Tier 6/Tier F (Tier 1 or A being the best, Tier 7 or G being the worst and avoid at all costs). It does have enough power for that pc but I would be replacing it for a quality, more efficient psu as soon as possible.
 
Should be fine.
Issues aren't always just power output, but your current system is fine.
Using a more robust GPU or CPU would demand not just more power, but more stress for the PSU, and some old design PSUs, despite the power output being over the recommend, can't delivery the amps on certain rails.
 
pastymuncher said:
PSU calculators are rubbish. That pc won't come anywhere near 270w and I doubt if it would even hit 200w with the cpu and gpu overclocked. My pc in my siggy only draws a max of 300w (depending on what game I am playing) while gaming. Always check the specs of a psu though. Don't assume that just because it says 400w that it has all of that power on the 12v rail where it's needed most. In the case of the Antec VP400PC it only has 336w across it's dual 12v rails plus it's a low end budget psu that finds itself rated at Tier 6/Tier F (Tier 1 or A being the best, Tier 7 or G being the worst and avoid at all costs). It does have enough power for that pc but I would be replacing it for a quality, more efficient psu as soon as possible.
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ouch you are scaring me lol its not gonna fry my system or parts right? ive been using it for a year problem free..
i prob cant upgrade for at least 2-3 months from now times are little rough atm for me
also my gpu is not using any cables its drawing power straight from the mobo since its a gtx 1050 ti but tier 6? isnt that avoid too?
now im just plain scared to even use my pc
 
MrPotato said:
Should be fine.
Issues aren't always just power output, but your current system is fine.
Using a more robust GPU or CPU would demand not just more power, but more stress for the PSU, and some old design PSUs, despite the power output being over the recommend, can't delivery the amps on certain rails.
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ok cool im just scared now cause the dude above says its tier f and tier g is the worst so that means mine is super bad?
its not gonna fry my parts right? its been fine for a year so far ...
i will upgrade in a couple months but untill then its all i have
 
It's a bad power supply... but it's good enough in the absence of anything better.
It's not even a couple of years old and it's powering components that sip power.
I wouldn't worry too much in the first instance.
 
tamzzy said:
It's a bad power supply... but it's good enough in the absence of anything better.
It's not even a couple of years old and it's powering components that sip power.
I wouldn't worry too much in the first instance.
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well if its a bad psu shouldnt i be worried then? heh
but i guess its ok for now then..
will upgrade just cant yet
 
tamzzy said:
its not going to burn the house down if that's what you're worried about. :)
there's bad...and then there's baaaaaad...
your PSU is nowhere near that
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not worried about my house but more about my parts that this psu is giving power too ;p
but i guess its ok for now
 
Marlon89 said:
thanks its gonna be fine for another couple months it wont burn out any of my parts? lol
i will upgrade in 2 months time to something thats quality for sure
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You should be fine as you are not overclocking and the A320 motherboard does not support it either.

Even regarding power consumption,my Ryzen 5 2600 and a GTX1080 is under 300W at the wall with the more intensive games I play - I use a higher end Corsair SF450 450W PSU myself!

I would only consider upgrading if you were getting a higher end GPU,which needs much more power.

In fact a lot of prebuilt PCs come with the Corsair VS series PSUs which are based on the same CWT platform as the one your PC is based on(AFAIK).
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
You should be fine as you are not overclocking and the A320 motherboard does not support it either.

Even regarding power consumption,my Ryzen 5 2600 and a GTX1080 is under 300W at the wall with the more intensive games I play - I use a higher end Corsair SF450 450W PSU myself!

I would only consider upgrading if you were getting a higher end GPU,which needs much more power.

In fact a lot of prebuilt PCs come with the Corsair VS series PSUs which are based on the same CWT platform as the one your PC is based on(AFAIK).
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its not rly about watts tho but more like the safety of my parts that is getting power from my psu but i guess for what i have its good enough ill upgrade it later then when i get like a better gpu cause itll need a better psu then too
 
tamzzy said:
i really wouldn't bother unless you're going for super monster overclocks

review of the PSU (rebranded - but same internals): http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=es&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=3c1767b253f48bc665e82465083cfaf6&t=413235
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ah ok for what i have this just ok and good enough thanks i will upgrade it when i get a new gpu tho since this is prob not enough for a card with 6pin connectors
 
tamzzy said:
i really wouldn't bother unless you're going for super monster overclocks

review of the PSU (rebranded - but same internals): http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=es&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=3c1767b253f48bc665e82465083cfaf6&t=413235
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Marlon89's psu is a 400w unit with a weak dual 12v rail of 336w though, not a 500w unit with a 408w 12v rail. The warranty was 2 years and not 3 years like the Coolermaster as well. I am wondering if the VP400PC is a different platform to the Coolermaster. In any case, the VP400PC is a poor quality unit and while it has enough power to run that pc there is no way I would want it anywhere near a pc that I have built and I stand by my advice of replacing it with a quality modern and more efficient psu (the VP400PC isn't even 80+ certified) sooner rather than later.
 
Marlon89 said:
its not rly about watts tho but more like the safety of my parts that is getting power from my psu but i guess for what i have its good enough ill upgrade it later then when i get like a better gpu cause itll need a better psu then too
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I am trying to point out your system is not going to be drawing anywhere near to 300W at the wall let alone internally. My GTX1080 alone probably consumes more power under load than your CPU and GPU.

OP,this some comments from Jonnyguru,which is one of the best review sites and forums for PSUs on the internet:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?12721-Antec-VP400PC-vs-VP450P-EC-vs-Cooler-M-G450M

The VP400PC is a CWT GPA unit. Nothing special or changed about it really, it's about as low end as you can get while still being decent. You can see a review of a similar unit at ComputerBase's Cooler Master B500 Review.
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The B500 is the same platform. I will stick to my earlier comments,if you are intending to get a faster graphics card which requires more power then I would get a new PSU.

The Ryzen 5 1500X does not consume a lot of power,A320 motherboards are low power and a GTX1050TI barely consumes more power than the PCI-E slot.

Also you can't overclock your CPU as it is on an A320.

Another thing OP,is that your PSU is probably 80% efficient,but 80 Plus certification needs to cover 110V and 230V,so if your PSU is only designed for use in 230V countries,it can't be certified as 80 Plus.
 
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pastymuncher said:
I stand by my advice of replacing it with a quality modern and more efficient psu (the VP400PC isn't even 80+ certified) sooner rather than later.
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Title literally states it'll be upgraded in a few months! In the meantime it'll be absolutely fine. I haven't looked at reviews, but as a PSU from a reputable brand it's not going to be truly terrible; it probably won't have the longevity of a better one, the power delivery won't be as smooth (higher ripple etc) which would impact overclocks, but for a basic rig like OPs it won't burn the house down, electrocute your pets and fry your components. It's a budget PSU for sure, but it's not a Chinese firework.

I've got an Antec vp450 bought in May 2011 that powered my wife's C2D and subsequent A10-5800k rig until about a year ago. It's now in my "spare parts" PC running an [email protected] and 7870xt (using a 6-to-8 pin PCI-e adapter and a dual molex-to-8 pin PCI-e adapter... nasty!) which doesn't get used much but does occasionally get used for light gaming (Diablo 3, Heroes of the Storm, Factorio etc).
 
Bagnaj97 said:
Title literally states it'll be upgraded in a few months! In the meantime it'll be absolutely fine. I haven't looked at reviews, but as a PSU from a reputable brand it's not going to be truly terrible; it probably won't have the longevity of a better one, the power delivery won't be as smooth (higher ripple etc) which would impact overclocks, but for a basic rig like OPs it won't burn the house down, electrocute your pets and fry your components. It's a budget PSU for sure, but it's not a Chinese firework.

I've got an Antec vp450 bought in May 2011 that powered my wife's C2D and subsequent A10-5800k rig until about a year ago. It's now in my "spare parts" PC running an [email protected] and 7870xt (using a 6-to-8 pin PCI-e adapter and a dual molex-to-8 pin PCI-e adapter... nasty!) which doesn't get used much but does occasionally get used for light gaming (Diablo 3, Heroes of the Storm, Factorio etc).
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yes i will upgrade within couple months but that dude does scare the hell out of me saying its super bad haha but i guess its ok like you say :) in about 3 months itll be out of my pc anyway with a better one
 
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