UK Google users could lose EU GDPR data protections

[Rofflay]

Knowlege is power, A release of someones history would prove that, Find the right person and you can make them sing like a canary or do whatever you want.


This is why Google are potentially scary, They have the power to corrupt and control the highest in society.

 

[Derek W]

so the thread title is just alarmist,

Its par for the course for the OP though.....

 

[Skunkworks]

Does this mean I'll stop getting that damn cookie confirmation? Another Brexit win.

 

[Deleted member 77746]

Does this mean I'll stop getting that damn cookie confirmation? Another Brexit win.

Depends what the UK comes up with for their GDPR policies I suppose.

 

[Jokester]

GDPR is already enacted into UK law.

Of course it may be revoked or changed in future, but there's no indication there's any plans to do so.

They could have course get shot of that god awful cookie warning that websites need to do though. That alone would make Brexit worthwhile.

 

[jpaul]

Interesting bbc program on amazon data gathering last week
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000fjdz/panorama-amazon-what-they-know-about-us

and the potential neigborhood surveillance system via amazon Ring (house lock/camera) system - people don't seem to be reading the small print in T&C's


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"Whole groups of brains and computer systems started to send out deliberately provocative or nonsense messages, trying to divert the networks attention back to them. Others became locked in message wars, reiterating the same points in a vain hope of convincing others. Others tried to remind the rest that there was something more important at stake right now, and could everyone please get back to discussing it?"

 

[Deleted member 77746]

Interesting bbc program on amazon data gathering last week
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000fjdz/panorama-amazon-what-they-know-about-us

and the potential neigborhood surveillance system via amazon Ring (house lock/camera) system - people don't seem to be reading the small print in T&C's

I shall watch this tonight when I get a moment. Looks interesting.

 

[The_Abyss]

Interesting bbc program on amazon data gathering last week
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000fjdz/panorama-amazon-what-they-know-about-us

and the potential neigborhood surveillance system via amazon Ring (house lock/camera) system - people don't seem to be reading the small print in T&C's


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"Whole groups of brains and computer systems started to send out deliberately provocative or nonsense messages, trying to divert the networks attention back to them. Others became locked in message wars, reiterating the same points in a vain hope of convincing others. Others tried to remind the rest that there was something more important at stake right now, and could everyone please get back to discussing it?"

The article gave the impression that Amazon are some way ahead of Google in how they interpret and respond to the data that they collect.

 

[Siliconslave]

GDPR, while a pain in terms of the cookie and opt in messages is actually hugely beneficial in lots of ways.

It allows us to have a level of control of how people use our interactions to profile and segment us, but more importantly it give us control over our data - we can demand that a company deletes all our information they hold on us (with certain bounds).

What that means is a bad actor like Cambridge analytica couldn't collect our data without our knowledge; if we asked would have to explain exactly how they are using our data; and if we ask they'd have to delete the info they hold. It also means that companies that don't look after our info properly are now subject to proper, painful, fine if they don't look after our data in a responsible way!

 

[Malevolence]

I ******* hate it when a site ask you to either agree to all cookies or to open up a panel where you can select which ones you'll allow/block and the list takes a good 30s to scroll down and has what seems to be thousands of cookie providers, each with their own checkbox and no option to check all.

 

[Deleted member 77746]

I ******* hate it when a site ask you to either agree to all cookies or to open up a panel where you can select which ones you'll allow/block and the list takes a good 30s to scroll down and has what seems to be thousands of cookie providers, each with their own checkbox and no option to check all.

Its not so bad if they are discrete ish. It’s the ones where you have to click twice or load in the middle of the screen.

 

[Sudden]

GDPR is already enacted into UK law.

Of course it may be revoked or changed in future, but there's no indication there's any plans to do so.

They could have course get shot of that god awful cookie warning that websites need to do though. That alone would make Brexit worthwhile.

Not quite. It's an European Regulation, so does not need to be adopted into English law like a Directive would. It applies once passed to all member states. Once transition period ends, theoretically, so would any applicable regulations. From what I understand however, the UK does have every intention of passing/adopting law which will be effectively the same as GDPR in order to prevent it from disappearing.

 

[stockhausen]

Good. It might actually make people move away from using their spyware products. It needs to get worse before it gets better, because right now no one seems to give a crap.

Would that the only spyware products came from Google - personally I am suspicious of lots of software and particularly of Gmail, Hotmail (now Outlook) and Yahoo (now Verizon).

Mobile phones are even worse - you can choose to be spied on by Apple -or- by Google

At least the EU's GDPR was one small step in the right direction.

 

[RDM]

At least the EU's GDPR was one small step in the right direction.

As with almost all EU directives the way it was enforced in the UK was via a UK law. That UK law still stands and there hasn't been any mention of it being removed. Therefore it still counts, so Google moving data from the EU to the US won't make any real difference under the law.

 

[stockhausen]

As with almost all EU directives the way [the EU's GDPR] was enforced in the UK was via a UK law. That UK law still stands and there hasn't been any mention of it being removed. Therefore it still counts, so Google moving data from the EU to the US won't make any real difference under the law.

It is understood that Google decided to move its British users out of Irish jurisdiction because it is unclear whether Britain will follow GDPR or adopt other rules that could affect the handling of user data.

I imagine that Google knows what it is doing and why - I very much doubt that Google has relocated data from Eire to the US because it makes it harder for Google legally to access and exploit that data

 

[Sudden]

As with almost all EU directives the way it was enforced in the UK was via a UK law. That UK law still stands and there hasn't been any mention of it being removed. Therefore it still counts, so Google moving data from the EU to the US won't make any real difference under the law.

As above - the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) wasn't a Directive. It was a Regulation. There is no English law regarding it (currently). However GDPR still applies given the transitional provisions and as far as I know, the aim is to implement something in English law that is similar to the GDPR.

 

[antijoke]

Just because it’s moving outside the U.K. it still has to abide by GDPR rules.

what a stupid thread

 

[RDM]

As above - the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) wasn't a Directive. It was a Regulation. There is no English law regarding it (currently). However GDPR still applies given the transitional provisions and as far as I know, the aim is to implement something in English law that is similar to the GDPR.

Isn't GDPR enacted via the Data Protection Act 2018? So it is implemented in English Law?

 

[Sudden]

Isn't GDPR enacted via the Data Protection Act 2018? So it is implemented in English Law?

No, the DPA is separate. It deals with some similar points, but sits in addition to the GDPR rather than enacting it.

And Yes, I am a lawyer

Here's another source as well - https://ico.org.uk/media/for-organi...0/information-rights-and-brexit-faqs-v2_3.pdf (Information Commissioner Office's site). It states:

Will the GDPR still apply when we leave the EU?The GDPR is an EU Regulation and, in principle, it will no longer apply to the UK from the end of the transition period. However, if you operate inside the UK, you will need to comply with UK data protection law. The government intends to incorporate the GDPR into UK data protection law from the end of the transition period – so in practice there will be little change to the core data protection principles, rights and obligations found in the GDPR

The provisions of the GDPR will be incorporated directly into UK lawfrom the end of the transition period, to sit alongside the DPA 2018.

 

[dowie]

I imagine that this will apply to other data harvesters such as Amazon, Netflix, etc.

Still, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear, US Corporations will own your life

OMG please don’t let us go back to the bad old days pre-2016 when those US corporations owned my life because I had a gmail account or read a US news site and got a cookie.. the horror of it...