AMD v Intel

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lewisprotips

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sorry to make another thread, but ive been sent a build for an AMD and I think its what I'm going to go with. however lots are saying get intel, I just want to confirm I'm doing the right thing before spending money.

budget is 2k including monitor ideally 27 inch and 1440 fastest fps as possible. I only play things like war zone, MW, apex online.
 
Definitely AMD. Can you share the spec? I'd be going with a 3700x at your budget and probably an X570 board.

With AMD you have an upgrade path in a few years if you need more speed. Second hand 4900x will be a beast.
 
Intel has slightly higher per-core performance meaning they will generally perform a little better in games, Ryzen are the better all-rounders though and offer much better value.

A 3900x is £60 cheaper than a 9900k and performs within a few % of the 9900k at 1440p, you get 12c/24t rather than 8c/16t and a clearer upgrade path.

A 3700X is £200 cheaper and performs within about 10% of the 9900k, £200 is the difference between the 2070s or the 2080s. I'd much rather have a 3700x/2080s over a 9900k/2070s
 
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My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,256.07 (includes shipping: £13.20)
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You can download Windows 10 from the Microsoft website to a USB stick and install from that, keys can be found for a couple of quid if you shop around.

For the monitor I'd recommend the Pixio PX7 (27" 1440P/165Hz/IPS) which can be had for around £400 if you shop around, we're not allowed to post competitor links on the forum I'm afraid:

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/pixio/px7-prime

Which would bring your total to £1656.

Plenty left over for a nice keyboard and mouse, I'd recommend doing a little research on mechanical switch types and find something you'd personally like. I tend to favour brown switches but I know people who can't stand them. There's also room for some nice speakers or headphones if they're needed.[/QUOTE]

I have been looking at a different monitor though ASUS ROG strip XG279Q
 
Intel platform is better for those looking into past stuff. And "head in certain place without light"...

For future Intel has nothing against AMD's desktop platform having CPUs with twice the core count available.
And improved CPU architecture coming...
While Intel is bringing third socket for fourth time rebranded architecture.


If not needing Wifi could drop motherboard to £20 cheaper B450 Tomahawk.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-b450-tomahawk-max-socket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-33t-ms.html


2560x1440 high refresh rate IPSes start from around £350 level.

This Gigabyte would be another option for that Pixio.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ync-led-backlit-gaming-monitor-mo-004-gi.html

Just remember that if you prefer dark/dimly lit room, VA would be better than IPS.
 
I'm guessing the people telling you to go for Intel are on social media or blogger style sites? I can't see anyone on a respected and dedicated hardware forum recommending you buy an Intel 9700/9900 over AMD's offerings right now outside of one or two very specific use cases which are not applicable to you.

A lot of people are caught up in the years of Intel being top dog and marketing, while not really understanding the information they see when reading reviews.

OP's original thread:

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/pc-build-from-ps4-and-86-inch-tv.18881919/

The spec he's considering above was posted by me. I've already went over a lot of this, but I'm guessing he's getting conflicting info so more input is always a good thing.
 
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2 grand budget should be getting 3900x
3950x might be pushing the budget
Intel might get you a few more fps
Would I care about say 127fps against 120fps
Hell no I bought a 3900x after using Intel for almost last 15 years
I Don't regret it for a second
 
AMD and Intel has been fighting out for top spot for a very long time.

There has been times when Intel has made the sweet spot but now it’s AMD that is shining for sure. This is where you will get your monies worth especially with that budget.
 
When I was looking to upgrade, I read a lot about "Intel having the gaming crown" on account of it's superior single-core performance. However, look into that further and you're talking about reasonably marginal stuff. What swayed me however is when someone benchmarked what happens when you do something alongside just gaming, e.g. streaming that game via Twitch, and suddenly AMD takes the lead because of its thread count. Also, Intel has had issues with vulnerabilities which I understand has led to performance decreasing over time as fixes are issued rather than increases as drivers mature etc. And then you factor in the price-to-performance bit over the top and it was no contest.
 
Seearbe said:
When I was looking to upgrade, I read a lot about "Intel having the gaming crown" on account of it's superior single-core performance. However, look into that further and you're talking about reasonably marginal stuff. What swayed me however is when someone benchmarked what happens when you do something alongside just gaming, e.g. streaming that game via Twitch, and suddenly AMD takes the lead because of its thread count. Also, Intel has had issues with vulnerabilities which I understand has led to performance decreasing over time as fixes are issued rather than increases as drivers mature etc. And then you factor in the price-to-performance bit over the top and it was no contest.
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Yep exactly. Not only that, Intel mainly pulls the gains in 1080p gaming on high end GPU's, and you're talking single figure fps differences at best.

I don't regret my 3900x one bit. I even have an upgrade path to 4th gen should I choose to.
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Hell no I bought a 3900x after using Intel for almost last 15 years
I Don't regret it for a second
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Ditto, I used to build and sell systems, and used AMD exclusively. I've been using Intel since the Q6600 days, as my main use was FS9, then FSX and now P3D. The 2500k was a game changer, but pretty much every new generation since has been a complete let down. Just hoping that the forthcoming FS2020 is going to take advantage of cores rather than clockspeed, that will give me the excuse to get a 3900k / 3950k. I have a 2nd system with a R5 3600 and a RX570, and prefer it in every way (bar P3d)
 
Up until this month, my main machine was a 4770k and figured it was time for an upgrade because game performance suffered when running VM's plus a modern game. Figuring that some of it might have been due to context switching between active threads I decided that I wanted a lot more cores. I spent ages looking into the reviews of Intel vs AMD.

In the end I chose AMD and don't regret going with AMD for one minute... although I do question whether or not I really needed a 3950x. I went for it for a few reasons though i) It has the highest single core boost speed in the line up which I figured would be better for games, ii) I'm guessing it won't be long before some games make use of more than 8 cores (or maybe this is me dreaming), iii) I wanted to make every effort to be sure that gaming performance doesn't suffer when running VM's at the same time. I must admit, I wasn't disappointed by the result - it worked great... until my X570 Aorus Master decided last that it wouldn't power up anymore without removing the CMOS battery for a while, so I RMA'd it - the RMA went through, so I ordered a new board today... and now I'm sad back using my old machine waiting for a new MB to arrive (which unfortunately but understandably will take far longer to arrive given it's the Easter weekend added to the lockdown delays). :(
 
Ok so I've speced the PC and paid for it gone for an upgraded cooling unit as recommended by josh from the sales team.

However someone has just mentioned that the 650w isnt enough and and recommends 700w?
 
lewisprotips said:
Ok so I've speced the PC and paid for it gone for an upgraded cooling unit as recommended by josh from the sales team.

However someone has just mentioned that the 650w isnt enough and and recommends 700w?
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For the above spec 650W is plenty as long as it isn't some cheap junk PSU, the PSU recommended in the above is high quality and more than capable.

Not sure what Josh from the sales team is on about regarding upgrading from the Freezer 34 though, it's more than ample for a 3700X.

What exactly did you change the HSF to?
 
Well, it looks flashier if nothing else. If you want the bling and a cleaner look it supplies that, but as stated the Freezer 34 for a third of the price would offer ample cooling.
 
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