BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

Ayahuasca · 19 May 2020 at 10:29

Those speeds look identical to BT's G.fast offering, are you sure it's actually fibre to the property?

the-evaluator · 19 May 2020 at 10:32

Yep, it's FTTP.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.p...d-uk-could-launch-ultrafast-fttp-in-june.html

Ayahuasca · 19 May 2020 at 10:47

Ah good stuff, they've changed their strategy.

G.fast was just a stop-gap anyway and I'll be pleased to see the back of it as it's fairly useless unless you live on top of your cabinet.

Hopefully this brings the pricing down a little for those who can get it, although BT are already quite competitive when you've got people on 1gig connections for £50pm!

Furyus · 19 May 2020 at 10:58

Ayahuasca said:
Ah good stuff, they've changed their strategy.

G.fast was just a stop-gap anyway and I'll be pleased to see the back of it as it's fairly useless unless you live on top of your cabinet.

Hopefully this brings the pricing down a little for those who can get it, although BT are already quite competitive when you've got people on 1gig connections for £50pm!

I'm still yet to see £50pm! I keep looking and it's still showing £60pm for me as a new customer.
I'll wait for Sky to show their prices.

spoffle · 19 May 2020 at 16:23

Furyus said:
I'm still yet to see £50pm! I keep looking and it's still showing £60pm for me as a new customer.
I'll wait for Sky to show their prices.

You have to contact BT. They only show their full prices on their site. Give them a call and haggle a bit. I'm paying £50 a month for my BT 1Gb connection because I haggled with them.

It worked out as £55 a month, and they credited my account with £120. Which brings the price down to £50 a month.

When I originally signed up last year, it was for their 300Mb service. Which was also showing as £59.99 a month on the site. I didn't even need to haggle, the first guy I spoke to offered it to me for £45.99 a month. Tripling my download speed and almost tripling my upload speed for less than 10% more is perfect.

faceman123 · 19 May 2020 at 16:47

spoffle said:
You have to contact BT. They only show their full prices on their site. Give them a call and haggle a bit. I'm paying £50 a month for my BT 1Gb connection because I haggled with them.

It worked out as £55 a month, and they credited my account with £120. Which brings the price down to £50 a month.

When I originally signed up last year, it was for their 300Mb service. Which was also showing as £59.99 a month on the site. I didn't even need to haggle, the first guy I spoke to offered it to me for £45.99 a month. Tripling my download speed and almost tripling my upload speed for less than 10% more is perfect.

I settled for 55 a month too much hassle

thewanted · 19 May 2020 at 19:48

Dangerous Dave said:
I had this using Vodafone's DNS servers, noticeably faster using Cloudfare DNS on a Raspberry pi running pihole. I've always used a Netgear D7000 on the connection.

I think it's linked to the time of day. I had solid 6-7ms pings to bbc.co.uk until about 19h30, but now there's a lot of jitter and browsing is erratic:

Reply from 151.101.0.81: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=58
Reply from 151.101.0.81: bytes=32 time=93ms TTL=58
Reply from 151.101.0.81: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=58
Reply from 151.101.0.81: bytes=32 time=70ms TTL=58
Reply from 151.101.0.81: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=58
Reply from 151.101.0.81: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=58
Reply from 151.101.0.81: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=58
Reply from 151.101.0.81: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=58
Reply from 151.101.0.81: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=58
Reply from 151.101.0.81: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=58
Reply from 151.101.0.81: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=58
Reply from 151.101.0.81: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=58

Seems like I'm not the only one

https://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Int...eliable-broadband-in-the-evening/td-p/2653779

EDIT: After 8 days of service, I have cancelled our Vodafone FTTC service. I genuinely do not have the time nor patience to troubleshoot Vodafone's crap network and service. I will sign up with TalkTalk or PlusNet again where the service was flawless all of the time. The crap thing is that Vodafone have terminated the line so now I have to wait 2-3 weeks for a new provider to reactivate it.

Dangerous Dave · 19 May 2020 at 21:07

thewanted said:
I think it's linked to the time of day. I had solid 6-7ms pings to bbc.co.uk until about 19h30, but now there's a lot of jitter and browsing is erratic:

Seems like I'm not the only one https://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Int...eliable-broadband-in-the-evening/td-p/2653779

That's mine just now, can max out my 80Mbps connection even in peak times. They may have issues elsewhere in the network, I'm in central Scotland.

64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=2 ttl=58 time=16.6 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=3 ttl=58 time=16.5 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=4 ttl=58 time=16.3 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=5 ttl=58 time=16.2 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=6 ttl=58 time=16.0 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=7 ttl=58 time=15.7 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=8 ttl=58 time=17.0 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=9 ttl=58 time=16.7 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=10 ttl=58 time=16.3 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=11 ttl=58 time=17.4 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=12 ttl=58 time=18.0 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=13 ttl=58 time=16.5 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=14 ttl=58 time=16.5 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=15 ttl=58 time=16.0 ms

thewanted · 19 May 2020 at 21:09

Dangerous Dave said:
That's mine just now, can max out my 80Mbps connection even in peak times. They may have issues elsewhere in the network, I'm in central Scotland.

64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=2 ttl=58 time=16.6 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=3 ttl=58 time=16.5 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=4 ttl=58 time=16.3 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=5 ttl=58 time=16.2 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=6 ttl=58 time=16.0 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=7 ttl=58 time=15.7 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=8 ttl=58 time=17.0 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=9 ttl=58 time=16.7 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=10 ttl=58 time=16.3 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=11 ttl=58 time=17.4 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=12 ttl=58 time=18.0 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=13 ttl=58 time=16.5 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=14 ttl=58 time=16.5 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: icmp_seq=15 ttl=58 time=16.0 ms

My sync speed was up to 53.5mbit this morning and I was achieving that via nperf.com and speedtest.com throughout the day. When it got to 19h50 tonight, my tests dropped to about 18.8mbit.

faceman123 · 20 May 2020 at 09:19

spoffle said:
You have to contact BT. They only show their full prices on their site. Give them a call and haggle a bit. I'm paying £50 a month for my BT 1Gb connection because I haggled with them.

It worked out as £55 a month, and they credited my account with £120. Which brings the price down to £50 a month.

When I originally signed up last year, it was for their 300Mb service. Which was also showing as £59.99 a month on the site. I didn't even need to haggle, the first guy I spoke to offered it to me for £45.99 a month. Tripling my download speed and almost tripling my upload speed for less than 10% more is perfect.

Hi spoffle would you be so kind to confirm how long the upgrade took? my order was "complete" yesterday but speed hasn't increased. i was advised " it has to build up - i'm pretty sure that's not the case it's not copper !

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Caged · 20 May 2020 at 10:40

Have you tried rebooting your router?

the-evaluator · 20 May 2020 at 10:55

I've just had an Openreach engineer turn up to see if I minded them doing the outside work for my FTTP installation today in advance of the rest of the installation on 9th June. Fine with me.

I assumed that they were using pre-terminated fibre from the CBT to house, but no, as I write this he's measuring a length of fibre from a spool to run through the duct under my front garden.

robj20 · 20 May 2020 at 11:07

the-evaluator said:
I've just had an Openreach engineer turn up to see if I minded them doing the outside work for my FTTP installation today in advance of the rest of the installation on 9th June. Fine with me.

I assumed that they were using pre-terminated fibre from the CBT to house, but no, as I write this he's measuring a length of fibre from a spool to run through the duct under my front garden.

It will be made up on demand, you get little tools that prepare the ends for the connectors.
Just hope when they do mine they either don't mind crawling under the floorboards or don't mind me helping them.

Caged · 20 May 2020 at 11:10

They won't crawl under floors, but they will have no issue giving you a fibre to pull under there yourself. Though I'd probably run conduit in advance and leave a draw string in place.

the-evaluator · 20 May 2020 at 11:12

Yeah, no chance that they'll crawl under floorboards.

the-evaluator · 20 May 2020 at 11:39

That didn't take long, there's now a coiled up length of fibre waiting for the next engineer visit on 9th June.

Dangerous Dave · 20 May 2020 at 12:29

My install date still hasn't been moved from the middle of July, it was moved out to July once the fibre was pulled through to the house a couple of weeks ago.

Caged · 20 May 2020 at 12:33

I guess they have a lot of people who'd normally be installing new ethernet services for business with not a huge amount on at the moment

robj20 · 20 May 2020 at 16:05

Caged said:
They won't crawl under floors, but they will have no issue giving you a fibre to pull under there yourself. Though I'd probably run conduit in advance and leave a draw string in place.

No need for conduit loads of room going to just use some clips. You can kneel up there is that much space.

Meatball · 20 May 2020 at 16:35

the-evaluator said:
I've just had an Openreach engineer turn up to see if I minded them doing the outside work for my FTTP installation today in advance of the rest of the installation on 9th June. Fine with me.

I assumed that they were using pre-terminated fibre from the CBT to house, but no, as I write this he's measuring a length of fibre from a spool to run through the duct under my front garden.

when did you place your order? My FTTP order was placed on March 23rd and the original install date of 17th April never happened. I’ve had no contact since!