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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

Agreed, said as much if these circumstances don't affect prices then nothing will.
Well I know no one who will spend £500 on a GPU to play computer games, and most of them can wait for prices to drop. In the end there are better things for me to spend money on,so if people want to throw money at them like loot crates in games,or funding Twitch streamers more fool them! This is a hobby but not a drug addiction! :p
+1 The only person I know who would dream of spending more than £200-£300 on a GPU is a video editor who also games and can write it off as a legitimate business expense. All the rest although having kids who game or gaming themselves won't go over £300 and never have. The mate with a 1070 recently bought a Xbox1X and loves it as do his kids. Performance filters down but only slowly to these people and they're prepared to wait.
 
+1 The only person I know who would dream of spending more than £200-£300 on a GPU is a video editor who also games and can write it off as a legitimate business expense. All the rest although having kids who game or gaming themselves won't go over £300 and never have. The mate with a 1070 recently bought a Xbox1X and loves it as do his kids. Performance filters down but only slowly to these people and they're prepared to wait.

Gaming (well driving and flying sims) is my primary hobby. A £500 GPU upgrade every 2 years that only costs £300/£350 after selling my old card is pretty much my limit. As I get older I can see this limit increasing but not right now.

it has to provide value for money though. If the 3080ti destroys the 2080ti at £750 (not going to happen I know) I would probably bite these days. If the 3070 is £600 and is only 2080 perf plus better RT then I buy a 2nd hand 2070s.

I find it distasteful when a company are happy to not only price their top end gear so that only people with money to burn can afford but also use that level to drag up the rest of the product line around it.

I just want to stop seeing the lower end being priced out of the market for more casual gamers. It will affect the pc gaming industry
 
Gaming (well driving and flying sims) is my primary hobby. A £500 GPU upgrade every 2 years that only costs £300/£350 after selling my old card is pretty much my limit. As I get older I can see this limit increasing but not right now.

it has to provide value for money though. If the 3080ti destroys the 2080ti at £750 (not going to happen I know) I would probably bite these days. If the 3070 is £600 and is only 2080 perf plus better RT then I buy a 2nd hand 2070s.

I find it distasteful when a company are happy to not only price their top end gear so that only people with money to burn can afford but also use that level to drag up the rest of the product line around it.

I just want to stop seeing the lower end being priced out of the market for more casual gamers. It will affect the pc gaming industry
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Well said.
 
I just want to stop seeing the lower end being priced out of the market for more casual gamers. It will affect the pc gaming industry

There’s still a lot of demand as many kids these days want to be streamers / YouTubers so even if consoles provide better VFM people will still have an interest in pc gaming.

Personally I think I’m more interested in the hardware than the gaming as such.
 
+1 The only person I know who would dream of spending more than £200-£300 on a GPU is a video editor who also games and can write it off as a legitimate business expense. All the rest although having kids who game or gaming themselves won't go over £300 and never have. The mate with a 1070 recently bought a Xbox1X and loves it as do his kids. Performance filters down but only slowly to these people and they're prepared to wait.

This is also why so many popular games look cartoony,ie,entry level and mainstream purchasers,are falling behind in GPU performance,so games devs have to also target them.
 
Sorry I realize there was a serious error in my last comparison, I completely missed out the GTX285 making the leap from GTX9800+ to GTX480 seem much larger than it actually was.

Here is the corrected comparison.
NVidia-comparison2.jpg


The problem with that performance comparison from TPU, is that it's all done at 1920*1080.
 
The problem with that performance comparison from TPU, is that it's all done at 1920*1080.

Yes you are quite right 1080p comparisons are not perfect, but as I said when I posted it up it does give us a 'rough' idea of the performance differences
Now I know that the Tech powerup database isn't the be all and end all of comparisons but it gives us a rough idea of what is what.

Now this page shows that the the performance difference widens as you go up in resolution (with the 2070S vs 2080ti, it doesnt work that way for all cards) so while 1080p results are not perfect by any menas it give us a 'rough' idea of the lay of the land.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvida-geforce-rtx-2070-super/27.html
 
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