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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

This price conversation is getting beyond tedious, and I mean no offence to anyone discussing it.

I wasn't happy with the price of the 2000 series, so I just didn't buy one. If 3000 series is the same disappointment then I won't buy one of them either. It's not compulsory!

Eventually, I'll get a card that outperforms my 1080ti significantly for around £600. It's just a matter of how long I have to wait. :)
 
kazuya1337 said:
It's called reality, if Big Navi is better than the 3090 then it will be a 4 figure card.
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Have you ever heard of "progress". Generational progress means the same money gets more performance with each generation.

Pascal was progress...real progress.
 
Twinz said:
Have you ever heard of "progress". Generational progress means the same money gets more performance with each generation.

Pascal was progress...real progress.
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Pascal was also an exception. Remember it was double die shrink, they went from 28nm, skipped 20nm, to 16nm. That's why the performance jump was so great between Maxwell and Pascal. Maxwell was supposed to be on 20nm but the process was cancelled and they had to release it on 28nm.
 
melmac said:
Pascal was also an exception. Remember it was double die shrink, they went from 28nm, skipped 20nm, to 16nm. That's why the performance jump was so great between Maxwell and Pascal. Maxwell was supposed to be on 20nm but the process was cancelled and they had to release it on 28nm.
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That's fine. Nvidia still didn't jack the price up though. The performance jump for Pascal was massive and the price increase was basically a little worse than inflation.

The problem with Turing wasn't that it's performance improvement wasn't as big as Turing. 30% over the 1080Ti would have been fine...if they had come in at the same price point. Instead they gave us virtually no progress at the 1080Ti price point and hid behind "ray tracing".
 
speaking of value, added price/perf. (where the number is the $ amount for 1% of performance from 2080 ti baseline)

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FoxEye said:
If people would pay it, they would charge it. I think it's that simple.
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Quite right. That's the thing, I do not think people will, not in high enough quantities anyways. Of course I could be wrong, we will see I guess.
 
TNA said:
Quite right. That's the thing, I do not think people will, not in high enough quantities anyways. Of course I could be wrong, we will see I guess.
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AMD landed both big console contracts remember that might really affect AMD's PC mark up to point they may feel comfortable matching Nvidia if the performance is there.
 
kazuya1337 said:
AMD landed both big console contracts remember that might really affect AMD's PC mark up to point they may feel comfortable matching Nvidia if the performance is there.
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We will see soon I suppose :)

To me beating them and doing so at $999 would be laying a much bigger blow to Nvidia then going for $1499. They would gain a lot more market share and mindshare.

End of the day if card prices always sent up since I stared them they would be five figures easily by now. What we need is price for performance to improve.

The only thing I can think is they may go silly with a Titan type tier where they price is mad but then offer the card below which is only 10-15% slower for $999 or less. This is of course me assuming that they will have something easily beating Nvidia's top card whatever that maybe.
 
Jacky60 said:
So we should hope for what exactly, a vastly increased price and just humbly swallow it??
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I don't believe prices are going to be anywhere near 2000-series levels. At least not after the consoles launch. Why pay £1K for a card when you can get a console for half the price? If the launch price is silly, just wait. I expect that the price for the 3080 Ti will end up about the same as the new consoles.
 
Poneros said:
speaking of value, added price/perf. (where the number is the $ amount for 1% of performance from 2080 ti baseline)

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I would love to see Nvidia charge 20% less for 40% more performance, but i doubt they will, AMD are also not going to charge $800 for their fastest card, it'll be more than that.
 
FoxEye said:
If people would pay it, they would charge it. I think it's that simple.
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There will always be enough mega rich PC people to buy the top tier NVidia card at any price.

It’s like football...pay the players millions, the ticket prices go up and it prices the poorer fans out of the game.

However, I don’t want to see this lifting the bar across the board as it shrinks the player base and harms the pc gaming industry.
 
McGraw said:
There will always be enough mega rich PC people to buy the top tier NVidia card at any price.

It’s like football...pay the players millions, the ticket prices go up and it prices the poorer fans out of the game.

However, I don’t want to see this lifting the bar across the board as it shrinks the player base and harms the pc gaming industry.
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You are forgetting that there is still all the previous cards out there to buy, these new cards are the top tier bleeding Edge cards. It won't price people out of the game, as you can still play the game just not at 4k últra 100+fps
 
Quartz said:
Why pay £1K for a card when you can get a console for half the price?
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I've got an upper limit of £1k and will spend it if I personally view it as worth it. The availability of consoles is irrelevant; if I don't think the £1k card is worth it then I'll buy a lower tier card, and if like the current crop the lower tier aren't worth it, then I'll stick it out with what I have. Consoles aren't the default position for me.

To be honest, when SLI was still viable I bought 2*980 and put them underwater. That was close to £1500 outlay at the time, the difference then was that it was worth it.
 
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