Caporegime
HahaFirst world problems, eh.
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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards
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Some flagships Mobos are sacrificing PCI-E slots for M2+Massive heatsinks to cool them, I wish M2 stayed on laptops and we got some sort of SATA revision as drives do not need be on the Mobo they can be tucked away saving space.
SATA Express was to be 12-16Gb/s (depending on how many PCI-E lanes the Mobo vendor wanted to give to up for it) so lets say on PCI-E 4.0 is could be 32Gb/s easy and PCI-E 5.0 64Gb/s then that would be up to speed with then M2 drives though it makes little difference to the OS drive.
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The 2080 was slightly faster than the 1080ti for the same price. Same with the 2070 vs the 1080. At best it can be described bad.
Looking at the steam survey, many people agreed that they weren't great value for money. The 970 is higher on the chart than both the 2070 and 2070 super.
I disagree they didn't sell the best cards at the time they sold what they thought would be the most profitable card.
The super cards are what we should have got at release but even then it wouldn't have been an amazing uplift.
The 2080 even had less VRAM than the 1080ti so costs were saved there also.
Soldato
Yeah lets not go blowing smoke when its a given the next gen should be in some capacity better otherwise there is no reason to upgrade at all.
From videocardz:
Intel is launching discrete desktop gaming graphics cards in 2021 which support Full DX12.1 including hardware ray tracing.
One of the models features 512 EU units at 1.3ghz = 10.5tflops and a 150w TDP. Built on 10nm. It uses GDDR6x memory
nothing else is known about other models, but Intel is able to stack up to 2048 EU units on a single card with 600w TDP providing 42tflops of rasterisation - so in theory Intel could build some big cards but it's expected they won't try to stack MCM units so don't expect a 43tflop gaming card
Intel is launching discrete desktop gaming graphics cards in 2021 which support Full DX12.1 including hardware ray tracing.
One of the models features 512 EU units at 1.3ghz = 10.5tflops and a 150w TDP. Built on 10nm. It uses GDDR6x memory
nothing else is known about other models, but Intel is able to stack up to 2048 EU units on a single card with 600w TDP providing 42tflops of rasterisation - so in theory Intel could build some big cards but it's expected they won't try to stack MCM units so don't expect a 43tflop gaming card
I'll be happy with a 10% performance decrease for a 20% price increase.
Nvidia are entitled to charge what they like
Caporegime
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They are not a charity! Oh and I worked hard for my money, will spend my money on what I want!!
Soldato
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They are not a charity! Oh and I worked hard for my money, will spend my money on what I want!!
Remember, the 2080ti was £1499 so the 3080ti will be £1999 cos that's how it works.
Soldato
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They are not a charity! Oh and I worked hard for my money, will spend my money on what I want!!
Remember, the 2080ti was £1499 so the 3080ti will be £1999 cos that's how it works.
You know how it rolls peeps.. 
Caporegime
I'm not sure I want to pay more for a performance decrease, that seems back to front but I'm willing to pay 40% more for 8% more performance. It's the way things are going, there's no point standing in the way of progress. OR maybe 2080ti +50% for a 3080ti at £2499. There will be a huge number of transistors and a new process PLUS new architecture and they aren't going to pay for themselves.
Soldato
Yeah its the norm though isnt it? If the company screw up from bad management/planning its not the fault of the customer. We can let it slide if its a one off cant we @Jacky60 ? But paying 40% more again wont cut it no matter how much RTX you smother over the dry cake. 
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Not without critism and people call them out on it.
Nvidia have behaved appallingly and its not ok as much as their marketing and PR dept. want to bury it and there some terrible accomplices in the tech world/media too failure to tell the full picture just means you're an extension of the PR dept
Soldato
If they pull another Turing, I'll sit and wait for AMD to make an offer. If Nvidia wants my money, they will have to do better than last time.
They are free to charge whatever they want....and I'm free to walk if they charge more than I think it's worth.
They are free to charge whatever they want....and I'm free to walk if they charge more than I think it's worth.
Soldato
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Soldato
..I will hope AMD dont balls up as I will be sticking with the vega a while longer then too.
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I’m a big critic of nvidia’s pricing...to the point that I didn’t upgrade my 1070.
I was being flippant.
I’m a big critic of nvidia’s pricing...to the point that I didn’t upgrade my 1070.
I was being flippant.
Soldato
Would you take a 3070 GTX (pretend case) if it was the price of the 1070 launch (no rtx stuff) but worked out to be a 75% uplift?