NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

[Poneros]

And to top it all off Crypto is making a comeback.

 

[Marak]

And to top it all off Crypto is making a comeback.

Another mining craze creating card shortages?

Which coin is it this time?

 

[Poneros]

Another mining craze creating card shortages?

Which coin is it this time?

Not sure, I think all the Radeon VIIs that are getting disappeared are all bound for the Etherum mines.

 

[Jacky60]

I don't know about anybody else, but in the past I used to look forward to upgrading parts on my PC.

Now all the fun has been sucked out of it, and it's more dread of how much an upgrade is going to cost, and what the ridiculous price increase is going to be this time.

So true, I also used to get excited at the prospect of a beefy new card for first £300-400 then £500+ then £699 and then it shot up to £1300 and now.....it's becoming a masochistic ritual and a stressful one at that. I'm pretty sure I'll spend the money trekking in Nepal and seeing the Himalayas instead, I know which I'd rather remember on my death bed. 4K 60+fps with MSAA on AAA games OR Everest, K2, Kanchenjunga.

I can't see this continuing for long the price inflation can't go on for ever, I'll defo get a console instead at this rate.

 

[Rroff]

If the xx70 has 8GB, for the third generation running I'll be very disappointed...

Unless they're doing some texture compression voodoo resulting in more than 12GB in practical application, which is the minimum I think it should have given that 5120x1440+ high Hz screens are a thing.

TBH these days I would say that in any generation with contemporary games to that generation the x70 is a 1440p 16:9 at best card - for UW you really be wanting a x70ti or x80 depending on what is available.

 

[Quartz]

I can't see this continuing for long the price inflation can't go on for ever, I'll defo get a console instead at this rate.

And that's why the prices won't be what the scaremongers say. Unlike the Pascal and Turing generations, this time there's competition.

 

[KillBoY_UK]

And that's why the prices won't be what the scaremongers say. Unlike the Pascal and Turing generations, this time there's competition.

Yet to be seen

 

[Richdog]

I can't see this continuing for long the price inflation can't go on for ever, I'll defo get a console instead at this rate.

Pretty sure people say the exact same thing with every generation.

 

[Quartz]

Yet to be seen

The consoles are coming in November - only 9-10 weeks after the announcement and only perhaps 8 weeks after the launch. If prices are too high, people will wait. And Nvidia has competition from itself: both the RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti are good enough for 4K 60+ fps gaming and all the RTX series are good enough for 4k 30+ fps gaming so people can easily just stay with what they have. Nvidia has to persuade people to spend their money sooner rather than later and to do that it needs performance and price.

 

[varkanoid]

The consoles are coming in November - only 9-10 weeks after the announcement and only perhaps 8 weeks after the launch. If prices are too high, people will wait. And Nvidia has competition from itself: both the RTX 2080 and 2080 Ti are good enough for 4K 60+ fps gaming and all the RTX series are good enough for 4k 30+ fps gaming so people can easily just stay with what they have. Nvidia has to persuade people to spend their money sooner rather than later and to do that it needs performance and price.

Your logic is flawed because 4k PC gaming is a minority. Into the mix this time is the console releases and AMD. I doubt Nvidia will be scared of either. Plenty previous consoles have been released when new cards are abound and I dont remember conversations like "the performance isnt there so I`m buying a console" that ultimately made Nvidia drop prices. As long as they beat AMD that will be the point.

With being first Nvidia will set the prices high because at that point nothing can compete. Have seen in the past AMD come out to threaten Nvidia and they just then dropped their price to compete with AMD and still cleaned up, but that price is what it should have been released at. Nvidia hold all the cards.

 

[Satchfanuk]

So true, I also used to get excited at the prospect of a beefy new card for first £300-400 then £500+ then £699 and then it shot up to £1300 and now.....it's becoming a masochistic ritual and a stressful one at that. I'm pretty sure I'll spend the money trekking in Nepal and seeing the Himalayas instead, I know which I'd rather remember on my death bed. 4K 60+fps with MSAA on AAA games OR Everest, K2, Kanchenjunga.

You can see all those when you fly over in MS Flight Sim

 

[LoadsaMoney]

 

[Phixsator]

Normally I enjoy watching his videos, but that one felt really hollow and empty. To be honest, starting to grow a little tired of what feels like an agenda.

 

[Marak]

I can't see this continuing for long the price inflation can't go on for ever, I'll defo get a console instead at this rate.

True, price inflation doesn't go on forever - they generally don't go much higher than a hundred trillion dollars for a loaf of bread.

 

[Satchfanuk]

Normally I enjoy watching his videos, but that one felt really hollow and empty. To be honest, starting to grow a little tired of what feels like an agenda.

So despite everyone else saying RTX 3000 being on Samsung 8nm, Jim pops up for the views claiming he knows it's actually on 5nm.

If that were true, Samsung's 5nm must be atrocious to leave the 3090 needing 3 x 8 pin power connectors

Edit: It's even worse, the leaker revised his info stating the pcb is the 3080 not 3090... with 3 x 8 pin

https://t.co/JhbMFnL39i?amp=1

 

[LoadsaMoney]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 features twelve GDDR6X memory modules

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-features-twelve-gddr6x-memory-modules

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

So despite everyone else saying RTX 3000 being on Samsung 8nm, Jim pops up for the views claiming he knows it's actually on 5nm.

If that were true, Samsung's 5nm must be atrocious to leave the 3090 needing 3 x 8 pin power connectors

Edit: It's even worse, the leaker revised his info stating the pcb is the 3080 not 3090... with 3 x 8 pin

https://t.co/JhbMFnL39i?amp=1

If that was the case its easy to see how the Quadros are efficient and the Geforces are not. Many of these process nodes Samsung developes are primarily for mobile SOCs,which are small. GPUs are massive, The Quadros must have low clockspeeds,and are cut down. The Geforces have to be clocked much higher,and Nvidia might try to cut these down less. It reminds me of Vega,ie,the Firepros were quite efficient,but the Vega64 was not only fully enabled but clocked to the edge,but drank power.

 

[Satchfanuk]

If that was the case its easy to see how the Quadros are efficient and the Geforces are not. Many of these process nodes Samsung developes are primarily for mobile SOCs,which are small. GPUs are massive, The Quadros must have low clockspeeds,and are cut down. The Geforces have to be clocked much higher,and Nvidia might try to cut these down less. It reminds me of Vega,ie,the Firepros were quite efficient,but the Vega64 was not only fully enabled but clocked to the edge,but drank power.

Good point, that's exactly what happened to Vega as you say.

Will be interesting to see if Jensen mentions power consumption at all during the announcement of if it's skipped over in the small print

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Good point, that's exactly what happened to Vega as you say.

Will be interesting to see if Jensen mentions power consumption at all during the announcement of if it's skipped over in the small print

Well,if AMD can make a decent range of GPUs upto the £500 mark,and together with Zen3,for a lot of entry level and mainstream gamers,it would be a good match.

The HD4000 and HD5000 series couldn't beat Nvidia,but ATI/AMD had much higher GPU sales share than today despite this.

Edit!!

Nvidia will win,as they will just make the biggest,meanest chip they can get away with. A 500MM2 chip is positively midrange by what Nvidia can make!!

 

[FoxEye]

"Disrupt" the market.......that old chestnut

They're going to disrupt the market by bankrupting their entire customer base