Bundle upgrade time?

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I looked into upgrading 6-12 months ago as my current motherboard, cpu, ram & cooler are around 8 years old.
i7 [email protected], 16gb, Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 7 motherboard

The advise was to wait for new Ryzen cpu’s coming out. Are these out now and are they better for gaming than Intel? Or are any new Intel cpu’s out?

I had a quick look and an i9 9900k bundle new is £770 which doesnt seem too bad. 2nd hand there doesnt seem to be a lot around and its more expensive than the below anyway
  • Intel Core i9 9900K 3.6GHz (5.0GHz Turbo) CPU - 16 MB - Socket 1151 - 8 Cores/16 Threads
  • Asus Strix Z390-F Gaming Motherboard
  • CORSAIR 16GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM
  • CPU Standard Clock Speed 3.6GHz
  • BeQuiet Pure Rock 120mm Cooler
Yes, there are probably much better bundles/components to be had but 8 years ago my bundle cost £350. If the above lasts 8 years I would be quite surprised
 
Game depending the 9900k has slightly better FPS. If it was me though I wouldn’t buy into intel right now I went with Ryzen with a b550 motherboard for when the new CPUs drop.

I would take alook at

3700x ryzen.
B550 Plenty of options.
16gb 3600mhz ram.
 
rchads89 said:
Game depending the 9900k has slightly better FPS. If it was me though I wouldn’t buy into intel right now I went with Ryzen with a b550 motherboard for when the new CPUs drop.

I would take alook at

3700x ryzen.
B550 Plenty of options.
16gb 3600mhz ram.
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Thanks. When do the new CPU’s drop?
Or is the 3700x the new one
 
If it's mainly for gaming, then Intel has the slight squeeze on achieving slightly better FPS over Ryzen with current gen CPUs.

I'd get something like the below... Only chucked 32GB RAM in as whilst 16GB is ample, 32GB at such a cheap price will hopefully help the system last you another 6+ years if you don't upgrade that often :p

Could maybe change the cooler if wanted but the Brocken 3 is great for the money. The Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B is great if can find it in stock elsewhere. Or one of the BeQuiet models like the Dark Rock 4, or top end Dark Rock Pro 4.

What GPU are you pairing the system with?

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £680.92 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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Sparx said:
If it's mainly for gaming, then Intel has the slight squeeze on achieving slightly better FPS over Ryzen with current gen CPUs.

I'd get something like the below... Only chucked 32GB RAM in as whilst 16GB is ample, 32GB at such a cheap price will hopefully help the system last you another 6+ years if you don't upgrade that often :p

Could maybe change the cooler if wanted but the Brocken 3 is great for the money. The Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B is great if can find it in stock elsewhere. Or one of the BeQuiet models like the Dark Rock 4, or top end Dark Rock Pro 4.

What GPU are you pairing the system with?

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £680.92 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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Nice, thanks. I take it the 10700k is even better than the 9900k?

GPU, I have a 2080ti (EVGA)
 
It trades blows with 9900k in games, most games it equals or slightly better. 10th Gen is also on the newer 1200 socket and Z490 chipset, so if you ever did upgrade again you'd have Intel 11th Gen as an option at least...

But both AM4/Intel 1200 have 1 more gen left (Ryzen 4000 and Intel 11th Gen) coming up and then both moving onto new sockets.

GPU is golden then and not an issue :p
 
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £720.46 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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10 cores £30 more

Didn't do free shipping option. Had to cut down for entry board

Wanting to better the Toma for same price but with WiFi then Aorus Elite
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...-lga-1200-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-58f-gi.html
 
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Thanks. When do the new CPU’s drop?
Or is the 3700x the new one
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3000 series are current now. You could always buy a 3700x ryzen and b550 save the cash sell the 2080ti and the money saved lump into a new Nvidia gpu when they come out.
 
Guest2 said:
I had a quick look and an i9 9900k bundle new is £770 which doesnt seem too bad.
  • Intel Core i9 9900K 3.6GHz (5.0GHz Turbo) CPU - 16 MB - Socket 1151 - 8 Cores/16 Threads
  • Asus Strix Z390-F Gaming Motherboard
  • CORSAIR 16GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM
  • CPU Standard Clock Speed 3.6GHz
  • BeQuiet Pure Rock 120mm Cooler
Yes, there are probably much better bundles/components to be had but 8 years ago my bundle cost £350. If the above lasts 8 years I would be quite surprised
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That price is bad for future standard level 8 core without any upgradability.
And 8 core certainly won't last as high end for even five years.
Ways to utilize/new things to do with high core counts are invented and question is only about what core counts game developers start considering as normal level hardware for running game with all stuff.
 
Since you waited this long you may as well hang on a couple more months for zen 3 which is looking likely to beat Intel in all departments.

You would also have the option of up to 16 cores as an upgrade path for longevity along with PCIe gen 4 for future GPU's.
 
Thanks all. So it’s looking like the best option if wanting to upgrade now is 10 core intel i9 10850k or wait 2 months for amd zen 3 16 core.
What is ps5 in terms of cores / architecture and gpu? I feel like most games will be developed for the ps5 for the next 10 odd years.
Selling my 2080ti isnt really an option as need a gpu to play games now.
Fyi i’m only really playing cod mw at the moment but cyberpunk does looks like it’s going to be good when it’s eventually released.
 
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What is ps5 in terms of cores / architecture and gpu? I feel like most games will be developed for the ps5 for the next 10 odd years.
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Both next-gen consoles use kind of variant of Ryzen 3700X.
7 cores are dedicated exclusively for use of games.
That's some hefty level of CPU power for mainstream with tight optimizing done in console games.

And while some things in games just don't multithread at all, because of sequential nature, other things which multithread well can be rather easily scaled to higher core counts when game developers deem above 10 cores as new PC high end needed for running everything maxed.

Also GPU of both is based on to same AMD's coming Navi2 raytracing architecture.
Xbox Scarlett is more powerfull with likely GPU performance in 2080 Super > 2080 Ti area.
 
PC and consoles don't work the same evening same CPU and GPU were used. . And mostly we get poorly coded ports from contracted studios . Even though the games were designed on a PC etc .
6 core Zen 3 should match 8 core PS5 when overclocked with some good 4000hz etc.
Then you look at gddr6 speed, amount and bus , 2070 and onwards are still greater .

@Guest2. Keep your GPU. Both consoles state max perfect performance , most likely folding at Home would achieve this . Personally believe it'll be done to 2070S level with damn well executed Coding to get the most.

Least consoles have proper PCIe NVME 4.0 controllers ! New Samsung NVMe will reach same or higher speeds !!!

10850k would fly , so would Zen 3 etc but I would person Bally sink 4000hz + ram with Zen3. You can see would an 8 core CCX design can achieve with APU 4700GE ! 5000hz plus on B550. And intel can do 4200hz currently plug and play
 
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