Ideas for a new gaming rig please

Dallies

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Ok so as a user suggested I'm looking to build a new gaming rig I would have preferred to stay with intel but my budget isn't great bearing in mind my current rig is a hp z800 with dual 6 core xeons with a total of 24 threads, 16gb of ram and a 1tb sas hd as my main drive. I now y'all probably thinking lol at the relic but it's the best rig I've ever owned and in the several years I've had it believe me it's never crashed ever! But I purchased a Asus geforce rtx 2060s oc 8gb Evo 2 and I think my rig is slowing it down!

So I've got a graphics card and that's it basically!
My budget was around £500 but I've seen the z800s selling on feebay for around £300 so I could probably stretch the budget to £800 hoping and praying I can sell the old rig.

I'm open to some suggestions please.

This is what I priced up to £550 before the suggestion
The Asus b450f gaming board

Ryzen 7 2700x

Corsair vengeance RGB pro black 16gb 3600

Corsair CV 650w PSU

Kingston 1tb a2000 M2 nvme

And a ATX case with 4 fans and bottom mounted PSU
 
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Okay so this puts you slightly over budget but I'd say is a much better list of parts than what you've picked! Though I'm sure someone with more experience than me will be a long shortly and spec you up better than I could.

My suggestion would be to use your HDD or SSD from your current system as storage while using the nvme as a boot drive, I've picked you ram with better timings which will give you a better experience I believe, you get X570 which means you can upgrade your cpu in the future to AMD 4000 series if you wish and can always add more storage. The PSU is manufactured by Seasonic and should be suitable for your needs, the case is excellent according to all the reviews I've seen.

My basket at [url=https://www.overclockers.co.uk]Overclockers UK:
Total: £842.38 (includes shipping: £12.60)​
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Little sense in more expensive than CPU £200+ board for that budget.
Already £155 B550 Aorus Elite would have basically overkill VRM for any current AM4 CPU and coming Zen3 Ryzens giving plenty of upgrade path.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-b550-aorus-elite-amd-am4-b550-atx-motherboard-mb-58v-gi.html

Also PCIe v4 NVMe is even more waste of money.
£110 ten gets perfectly good for gaming PC double capacity drive.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/wd-b...-solid-state-drive-wds100t2b0c-hd-56l-wd.html
Which can actually fit more than couple big games unlike small half TB drive.

Also £100 is lot for basic level 16GB of memory.
20/30 more would give guaranteedly future proof for long time 32GB.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...zen-tuned-ddr4-memory-dual-kit-my-4bz-cs.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...zen-tuned-ddr4-memory-dual-kit-my-4cl-cs.html


Corsair CV is somewhat brand overpriced really old low end design PSU. (with also second tier parts)
Anyway for such lower mainstream graphics card 550W PSU would be more than enough.
Though availability of good PSUs is mostly horrible now.
 
The 'cheaper' but solid mATX option...

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £591.90 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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Or same Ryzen 3600 build just with NVMe instead of SATA M.2, slightly better RAM, better mobo and nicer case (in ATX size).

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £725.86 (includes shipping: £0.00)​
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@EsaT I maybe wrong but in my opinion why would anyone buy last gen or a lower end chipset when they can afford x570 and gen 4? Yes storage is at 500gb roughly before recycling his old drives but that's something more easily expanded along with ram as he needs it. I believe he'll get a lot more life out of a x570 than b550
 
 
Thanks for the recommendations guys I have found a company that's gonna build me a system with a ryzen 9 3900x and MSI x570 gaming board 32gb ram a cool case and PSU with a 1tb SSD nvme drive all for £825 at that price I couldn't possibly bring myself to pay the same sort of money for a ryzen 5 system.
I appreciate all your suggestions that helped me chose the right hardware thanks.
 
You sure it's legit or at least using a quality PSU/NVMe/Case etc? Do you know exact full specs with make/model of everything?

I mean can knock £85 straight off below basket, as OcUK massively overpriced 3900X (it's £395 region at most places) so that's about £938 total... Must be next to no mark-up on the build at that cost?

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,023.86 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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Vidar said:
@EsaT I maybe wrong but in my opinion why would anyone buy last gen or a lower end chipset when they can afford x570 and gen 4? Yes storage is at 500gb roughly before recycling his old drives but that's something more easily expanded along with ram as he needs it. I believe he'll get a lot more life out of a x570 than b550
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X570 (which is actually year older chipset) won't support any more CPUs than B550.
Both get Zen3s, before it's time for AM5 and DDR5 with Zen4.

And unlike SATA drives number of M.2 slots is limited, so there's zero sense to waste money on known to be small capacity marketing hype drive from the start and with doubled GB price.
Besides there's lots of untapped potential even in cheapest NVMe drive and anyway bigger RAM to buffer/cache game graphic's assets there trounces any NVMe.
 
I found them by chance walking past my son's pc we got him for Xmas. There sticker is on the side of it! I completely forgot tbh. It was a week late if I remember due to the Xmas post but it arrived and he's never had any problems with it.
The only details they give are the CPU model and mobo model and just rundown of everything else that's included. It comes with a 3 year warranty so I'm guessing they aren't gonna use cheap crappy parts.
 
I honestly cannot see how they'd manage those specs at that price, even 2nd hand. Check out Ebay to see what I mean.
 
Vidar said:
I honestly cannot see how they'd manage those specs at that price, even 2nd hand. Check out Ebay to see what I mean.
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My sons computer was cheap I think it was just under 300. I'm looking at it now it's a pretty sturdy case although it's unbranded, with a ryzen 5 2600 and gigabyte a320m, 8gb patriot 2400mhz cl17, I don't know what PSU it has but it looks ok and it's got a DVD RW drive and a Seagate Barracuda 500gb SATA drive it didn't come with a OS and it was on special offer and I've just noticed the system I'm getting is on special offer £300 off usual price.
 
Dallies said:
The only details they give are the CPU model and mobo model and just rundown of everything else that's included. It comes with a 3 year warranty so I'm guessing they aren't gonna use cheap crappy parts.
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And that tells "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark".

And from known parts like half the X570 boards of MSI have completely substandard VRM for the price.

Memory is probably some slow old garbage slowing Ryzens by crippling CPU's internal InfinityFabric bus. (3200MHz is starting level)
Who knows what China brand drive that NVMe is.

PSU is certain to be cheap outdated 10 years ago old crap.
Good PSUs have commonly 10 year warranty.
Three years is "car's rear lights disappearing behind bent of road" warranty.
Only thing you can hope from such PSU is that it won't try to burn down your house.
 
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Awful choice of parts as ever, @4K8KW10 :D
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Speed first. You offer six-core, I offer the faster eight core.
You offer a slow SSD, I offer an SSD with max speed.
You offer an overkill PSU, I offer savings.

Basically, you pour money into components which have 0 contribution to the system's performance - like super expensive case and PSU, and expensive and slow SSD.
 
Dallies said:
Thanks for the recommendations guys I have found a company that's gonna build me a system with a ryzen 9 3900x and MSI x570 gaming board 32gb ram a cool case and PSU with a 1tb SSD nvme drive all for £825 at that price I couldn't possibly bring myself to pay the same sort of money for a ryzen 5 system.
I appreciate all your suggestions that helped me chose the right hardware thanks.
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Ask them which MSI board it is as, most of the MSI X570 boards are terrible. The MSI X570 Tomahawk, X570 Unify and X570 Ace are the only ones worth considering (Not including the extortionately priced Godlike). Same goes for the psu. I would ask what the make/model is, as that is probably the most important part in the pc.
 
4K8KW10 said:
Speed first. You offer six-core, I offer the faster eight core.
You offer a slow SSD, I offer an SSD with max speed.
You offer an overkill PSU, I offer savings.

Basically, you pour money into components which have 0 contribution to the system's performance - like super expensive case and PSU, and expensive and slow SSD.
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Your build has a terrible motherboard and questionable psu, so swings and roundabouts.
 
There's no need to argue over it guys, everyone has their own preference! Look at me, I've sworn on Intel for years and now I'm defecting to amd! I could be shot! I'm going for the ryzen 9 because it matches my current system thread count and in my opinion going from 24 threads to 8/16 is a downgrade and I'm looking to upgrade. Answering another post about cheap parts burning my house down I know exactly where you are coming from bear in mind that I have a unused 800w PSU from my son's old i7 machine that I was gonna use in the new machine but I've decided to cancel my order and shop else where!
I'm ordering from a UK company that's been around for 15 years or more! This is what I've got in my basket

Eg argon ATX RGB gaming tower @ 50

Kingston 1tb a2000 M2 nvme SSD @ 100.26

Corsair vengeance l16gb 3600mhz @ 62.70

Asus prime x570p @ 164.49

Amd ryzen 9 3900x with wraith prism RGB cooler @ 439.98

That's a total of 822.05

The reason I'm going with the nvme SSD is my current system uses sas HDD with a 12gb transfer rate! I did try a sata SSD drive a while back and it was slower than the mechanical drive as sata is limited to 6gb transfer rate and I mean noticeably slower as in windows load up took an extra few minutes!
The nvme SSD has got to be faster than sata right or there would be no point making such a drive?

If overclockers can offer me the same kind of deal id happily spend my money with them.
 
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