NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

[rchads89]

What do you get there that justifies £100 more than the Founder's?

looks, cooling, good support from msi

 

[danlightbulb]

Thanks mate, which has the best warranty?

they all appear to be 3 years.

 

[Vertigo]

Agreed, just thought it would be useful to stick all the current pricing side by side.

What's the deal with ordering the FE direct, do you get a period of time to return it no quibbles?

No idea tbh. Legally you could return it if it's not used so could grab one and leave it untouched until all the reviews arrive then decide if you want to keep it. If it's used then you're on slightly more 'iffy' ground.

 

[Jacky60]

If I was to go with one this gen I would be looking at the nvidia FE cards.

Last gen Turing I was very impressed with cooling wise. They were built better than any AIB card and not much hotter or louder. And considering some of those cards were significantly more expensive.

The 10 series FE coolers were crap in my opinion. Hot and noisy. Turing was a massive improvement.

I bet the nvidia cooler this gen is even better than the last so it makes even more sense to stick with nvidia founders edition.

I'm just worried the FE cards will go out of stock before big navi launches so I'll be 'forced' to get an AIB 3080 or possibly AIB 3090 if they're still better than AMD's offering.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

looks, cooling, good support from msi

Yeah they're great cards, i'll have to dig my bag of cables out, pop another one in, as 3x 8 Pin on these

 

[rchads89]

Cracking cards

100%

 

[rchads89]

Yeah they're great cards, i'll have to dig my bag of cables out, pop another one in, as 3x 8 Pin on these

hmm not sure i have another 8 pin ill have to check!

 

[Minusorange]

Depends if you think raytracing is going to become a useful thing to have. If so then you could get a 3070, which (if we believe the figures) would be a performance boost of about 30% and give you decent RT performance. You don't even need to go to a 3080 to get it though, the 1080Ti should now be thoroughly outclassed by the 3070.

That said, I'd wait for real review figures, and for AMD to show their hand.

Cheers, I'll probably stick with the Ti as RT doesn't really interest me at the moment, will be looking to see what AMD have on offer as well but I think my next proper upgrade will be replacing my 4770k as it's getting a little bottlenecked in my audio production these days

 

[Greebo]

3090 looking to be terrible value over the 3080, but some already knew that anyway considering it only looks to be a bit quicker

Terrible value for money but its does appear to be 20% quicker. That is not insignificant. Its as much of more than the gap was between the 2080 and 2080ti. Its only the price which is wrong with the 3090.

Now if they dropped 8gb from it and say called it a 3080ti and released it for £1000 then it will sell

 

[kevman]

Im curious how come you want to upgrade from a 1080Ti; is it to have RTX and play at higher resolutions with better FPS?

Main reason is for VR use - I play DCS, IL2 and will look to get MFS2020 these games eat up resource like nothing else and the use a lot of Vram

 

[Darujhistan]

Around £350 ish, as long as there is supply of rtx 3070 and 3080, if they dry up, the 2080ti price will go up.... But given the choice of a brand new 3070 at £469 or a used RTX 2080ti at £469 which would you buy? Or would you need a price incentive to buy used?

I'd need a huge price incentive now as it's old tech and there seems to have been a big jump this gen and RTX appears to have matured a lot, it's not just been the usual marginal increase with a price hike attached, especially nothing like the entire Turing reaming.

 

[willhub]

I don't care about waiting for AMD to show their hand.

1) I'm am NV fanboy and admit that, drivers are stable and unfortunately the only time I strayed to ATI the card was DOA.

2) I have a g-sync monitor

3) AMD aren't going to catch NV. Even if they do NV aren't going to lower prices by an amount I would deem as significant.

4) I need a GPU now and going into winter will enjoy it much more from the outset for longer.

5) there is room for the 3080Ti sure, but only in so far as VRAM upgrade, as has been noted the 3090 is likely 10-15% faster than the 3080 tops. So even if you split the difference the 3080Ti may only be 7.5-10% faster than the 3080, possibly for a grand if the 3080 price remains static and doesn't come down like it did with GTX 1080 Vs 1080Ti.

The 3090 is more than 10% faster more like 30 to 40

 

[Jacky60]

Possible 3070 Ti coming soon, let's hope there's a 3080 Ti to follow suit.



https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-spotted-with-16gb-gddr6-memory

Yes there is 20GB https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3080-ti.c3581 Releasing 2020. Guess why it's releasing 2020 not mid way through 2021? Something red is clearly coming and this is in response to it.

 

[Greebo]

Yeh, i think realistically, the 3070 is going to trade blows with the 2080ti without RTX and beat it soundly with RTX on. The RTX performance is likely how they can say it is "faster" overall.

Not sure how you can say that when the chart with the average of all games tested, half with RTX and DLSS switch on showed the 2070 "just" beats out the 2080ti.

From that I take it that 3070 will be slower than the 2080ti in every game without RTX and beats it when switched on.

 

[Davanius]

Yes. Only they sell them new

Thanks.

 

[Greebo]

Here is a summary of all the 3080 AIBs currently shown on OCUK, alongside the FE.

I see no manufacturer has brought out a card at the £570 list price then? What a surprise.

 

[Vertigo]

The 3090 is more than 10% faster more like 30 to 40

No it's not. It's around 20% faster than a 3080, that's it.

 

[Cooper]

Would love to know what money tree you have in your garden. Any TI version is going to be at least 300-400 more.
Big difference in price here for most people who would already be pondering if a 3080 is 'really' worth it over just getting a 3070.

Why do you need a money tree? if you already have the money for a 3080, I'm sure most people could save the extra £££'s needed to get the 3080Ti in 6-9mths time.

 

[TNA]

EVGA have an RTX 3080 Hybrid !!


Yeah boi, plz get some in Gibbo.

Hold on, was it not just 24-48 hours ago you said you was not upgrading this time?

Got to love Nvidia's marketing, it just works

I will water cool it and clock the nuts off it

Still better then anything amd have

I tip my hat off to Nvidia's marketing. They near enough made you double your budget in a metter of hours. It just works

One at £500 now

Too much. Got to be mad to buy it at that price imo. But each to their own.

They gotta sell asap man, they won't even get 450 once the 3070 is out!!

Indeed

"selling fast" "flying out the door" "not enough stock" "trying our best" "great price"

Sounds like Gibbo's words. Guaranteed he will be using them soon

Here is a summary of all the 3080 AIBs currently shown on OCUK, alongside the FE.

Yeah, poor pricing, not one is cheaper than founder edition which also comes with a game.

No he didn't, say it was over priced. That's BS he would never say that. He said Turing was very expensive. And it was. What part of that does not line up with what I said? "Yeah sorry every one it was over priced and I totally ripped you off". No dude. Twist the words all you like.

There are lots of reasons why Turing was expensive. I gave a few. Others could be - the failure with Samsung (IE that all went into the costs) the cost of TSMC (as I pointed out) and so on. However, nowhere did he say they were over priced he just said they were expensive. And like I said, they were. To make and to buy.

As for Ampere prices being lower than every one thought? (and believe me it was every one, not just me) that is because they are on Samsung. They also have the same SM units as Turing, but two CUDA cores per SM instead of one. NO ONE knew that. Even so they still perform as predicted.

I will chat to you about something all day, but the minute you start twisting things and telling porkies it's over.

Lol. Feel free to strawman, you lost simples.

Oh and it was not lower than I thought, maybe you need a pair of glasses but I said it would be this price and stated exactly the reason.

Yea, no problem if it's over, I am sure you won't reply to this. Oh but we all know you will

 

[smr]

Terrible value for money but its does appear to be 20% quicker. That is not insignificant. Its as much of more than the gap was between the 2080 and 2080ti. Its only the price which is wrong with the 3090.

Now if they dropped 8gb from it and say called it a 3080ti and released it for £1000 then it will sell

I can't see a £1k graphics card selling like hot cakes on a cold day though.