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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

Vertigo1 said:
IIRC it used to be 250 posts and was raised to 1000 which tells you all you need to know.

The stringent rules on MM access are what makes it a safe place to trade.



I've seen reports of some going for around £300. At that price it's almost worth buying on to sell on when the 3070 turns out not be quite what it's cracked up to be and their value goes up again :D
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At least on eBay, this isn't true. Lowest in the past few days is £400, and mostly it's £500-600.
 
There are some dreamers in the members market currently trying to get top money for their cards on a platform full of people who know pricing and specs of the incoming 3000 series.. You need your head looking at to buy a 2000 series card at those prices.
 
Have to say, if they can produce something better than the 3070, even if it doesn't reach 3080, but has a lwoer power draw, they'll potentially win a lot of customers.
 
Woodsta888 said:
STolen from Guru 3D

No benchmarks have leaked, how is that possible? https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/geforce-rtx-3080-and-3090-what-we-know,1.html
I'll let you in on that secret. The AIB partners have all been prepping their cards for months now. They have the products, engineering boards for a while. NVIDIA however, has not released a driver that works with anything other than the test software they supply. So get this, I am writing this article on September 1st, hours before the presentation, and still, the board partners have no idea what the performance is going to be like. We need to advance on that as the board partners even do not know the thermal capacity effect of their products. NVIDIA has provided them with test software that will work with the driver. Basically, these are DOS-like applications that run stress tests. No output is given other than PASS or FAIL. We know the names of these test applications: NVfulcrum test and NVUberstress test. For thermals, there is another unnamed stress test, but here again, the board partners can only see PASS or FAIL. Well, we assume they have tested with thermal probes. What this paragraph, well, to show you the secrecy that NVIDIA applied for this Ampere project.

From what I saw in the release was that Ampere with DLSS 2 renders everything @ 1080p and then through the new way of whatever interpolation, fills in the gaps up to 4k AND claims that it has more detail from doing this than native 4k.

I'm waiting for this to be unpicked by reviews as ALL we have seen is Nvidia's marketing and literally nothing else as there have been no leaks due to Nvidia not giving them a driver that works with real world tests.

But those pro gamers who played 8k @ 60fps were impressed then it's still all very exciting.
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How do I decide what brand cooler to get on release day?
 
Thanks to those clarifying the reason we haven't seen any reviews is become of the NDAs, I didn't know this genuinely.

Can we honestly expect the real world performance to differ greatly from the initial benches seen already?
 
rchads89 said:
I think people are mental selling there 2080tis for £400-£550 without waiting for proper reviews on the 3070,3080,3090.
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Bit of a gamble, like a lot of things. I've got mine for sale, I'll let it go for the right price and pick up a 3080. Don't really want to sell yet, but I think I'll lose out least if someone offers me something reasonable for it now. Rather than in a months time.
 
Boomstick777 said:
Yeah exactly man, worse thing would be to pick up a 3080 at launch for it to be replaced by an improved Ti version with more vram a couple months later lol.

Going to sit back and let the dust settle from both camps launches and see where things are at.
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Also my Titan Pascal still plays all the games it played last week at over 100fps at my 1440p res.

I don’t need a new card yet. Come cyberpunk and maybe BF6 (that’s a big maybe) that might change.
 
Cavallino said:
Can we honestly expect the real world performance to differ greatly from the initial benches seen already?
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Any initial benches leaked so far are likely to be either carefully curated leaks (i.e. show very optimistic figures) or pre-release drivers and hardware (may not resemble the finished thing) IMHO.

So yes, I think there's value in waiting until some real test data, not under nvidia's direct control, becomes available.
 
opethdisciple said:
I really don't see these upgraded memory cards coming soon.

Tell me, how would they price a 3070ti with 16GB of ram against a 3080 mere months in to the launch?

Is it more or less expensive?

Speculating on cards with more memory barely a week in to launch would make these cards DOA essentially.

It would be a huge smack in the gob if these cards arrived before Xmas.

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Only unless supply of GDDR6 and GDDR6x is low would there be a reason for this.

Could also explain why AMD are waiting a bit longer then too.

But there was that article saying that indeed GDDR6 is low but it wont be until next year that supplies pick up again.
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Bolded please?
 
Cavallino said:
Thanks to those clarifying the reason we haven't seen any reviews is become of the NDAs, I didn't know this genuinely.

Can we honestly expect the real world performance to differ greatly from the initial benches seen already?
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Unfortunately there is no way to know how much it will differ by, till the real world benchmarks are done.

Nvidia could have been really conservative, or they could have shown their very best.
 
opethdisciple said:
I really don't see these upgraded memory cards coming soon.

Tell me, how would they price a 3070ti with 16GB of ram against a 3080 mere months in to the launch?

Is it more or less expensive?

Speculating on cards with more memory barely a week in to launch would make these cards DOA essentially.

It would be a huge smack in the gob if these cards arrived before Xmas.

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Only unless supply of GDDR6 and GDDR6x is low would there be a reason for this.

Could also explain why AMD are waiting a bit longer then too.

But there was that article saying that indeed GDDR6 is low but it wont be until next year that supplies pick up again.
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If they were to release a 3070 with more VRAM, they would almost certainly release a 3080 with more VRAM.

They would most likely price them slightly higher than their low VRAM couter part or they could price them the same and move the price of the low VRAM cards down.

The 3070 high VRAM would be close in price to the 3080 10GB edition (£50-£100 difference), as a way of enticing people to work their way up the product stack and buy the more expensive GPU. Assuming they don't phase out the low VRAM models.

That's my speculation for how they would price it in.
 
I'm happy that 2080ti owners have been kicked in the balls, you're part of the reason we have such high GPU prices paying whatever NVIDIA charged. Deserved..
 
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