NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

[Bazippy]

It's actually not even bad lol, people are over reacting.

If you go and look at the price number differences a cheaper GPU is not bad for a 2080ti owner.

The value loss of a 2080ti only matters if you were planning to sell your card and not buy another Nvidia card.

But if you are upgrading then it doesn't matter - yes your 2080ti is worth less but so is its replacement - the net dollar difference you have to pay in to upgrade is much lower than last gen. A 1080ti owner had to sell their card and then add $700usd to get an upgrade, but a 2080ti owner just adds $200 to get an upgrade after selling.

Sure if the RTX3000 were priced higher than RTX2000 then the 2080ti would be worth more but then you would also have more to pay in to get an upgrade.




Let's look at the housing market where this comparison works perfectly as well. Let's say tommorow the whole housing market drops 20% - suddenly everyone who bought in the last year will feel bad, until they realise the price doesn't matter if they are buying in the same market because their next property will be cheaper too.

All very true, the pain is if you just bought a new gpu at £1200 and still paying finance for it that really hurts. Even if you paid outright its a stinger that the price is low as you could have saved a decent amount. However im on a 980ti so the cheaper price is extra awesome.

 

[opethdisciple]

All very true, the pain is if you just bought a new gpu at £1200 and still paying finance for it that really hurts. Even if you paid outright its a stinger that the price is low as you could have saved a decent amount. However im on a 980ti so the cheaper price is extra awesome.

But then those that have done that and spent £1200 ought to have done a little bit more homework before their purchase.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Yeah the only guys to get stung are ones that bought about 1-2 months back. No return rights. Then the have to be silly enough to sell such card for under £500 and they would be making a really bad panic sell.

 

[bin20]

I think I will be getting 3070 , I don't have 4k monitor, but my question is do I need to upgrade my CPU, I have now ryzen 1600af with 16gig mem 3200mhz, gtx 1660 super , psu 600w

 

[gpuerrilla]

Hmm not sure but the more work you give the GPU the less taxed your cpu should be generally speaking.

 

[BS Dave]

It's actually not even bad lol, people are over reacting.

If you go and look at the price number differences a cheaper GPU is not bad for a 2080ti owner.

The value loss of a 2080ti only matters if you were planning to sell your card and not buy another Nvidia card.

But if you are upgrading then it doesn't matter - yes your 2080ti is worth less but so is its replacement - the net dollar difference you have to pay in to upgrade is much lower than last gen. A 1080ti owner had to sell their card and then add $700usd to get an upgrade, but a 2080ti owner just adds $200 to get an upgrade after selling.

Sure if the RTX3000 were priced higher than RTX2000 then the 2080ti would be worth more but then you would also have more to pay in to get an upgrade.




Let's look at the housing market where this comparison works perfectly as well. Let's say tommorow the whole housing market drops 20% - suddenly everyone who bought in the last year will feel bad, until they realise the price doesn't matter if they are buying in the same market because their next property will be cheaper too.

Great Logic mate.

 

[Vertigo]

Is that Sunshine?

Interstellar

 

[Vertigo]

All very true, the pain is if you just bought a new gpu at £1200 and still paying finance for it that really hurts.

Anyone putting a £1200 GPU on finance needs to take a long look at themselves.

 

[hyperseven]

It's actually not even bad lol, people are over reacting.

If you go and look at the price number differences a cheaper GPU is not bad for a 2080ti owner.

The value loss of a 2080ti only matters if you were planning to sell your card and not buy another Nvidia card.

But if you are upgrading then it doesn't matter - yes your 2080ti is worth less but so is its replacement - the net dollar difference you have to pay in to upgrade is much lower than last gen. A 1080ti owner had to sell their card and then add $700usd to get an upgrade, but a 2080ti owner just adds $200 to get an upgrade after selling.

Sure if the RTX3000 were priced higher than RTX2000 then the 2080ti would be worth more but then you would also have more to pay in to get an upgrade.




Let's look at the housing market where this comparison works perfectly as well. Let's say tommorow the whole housing market drops 20% - suddenly everyone who bought in the last year will feel bad, until they realise the price doesn't matter if they are buying in the same market because their next property will be cheaper too.

When people sold there 1080Ti the didn't lose such a huge percentage like 2080Ti owners are experiencing. £1000+ to £400 is comical.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Anyone putting a £1200 GPU on finance needs to take a long look at themselves.

 

[JohnG7]

Interstellar

Thanks.

 

[andy_mk3]

Anyone putting a £1200 GPU on finance needs to take a long look at themselves.

Why?

That's their business. If done BNPL or 0% CC it's a good way to buy expensive things.

 

[Curlyriff]

This is something that eventually when games incorporate it RTX IO might fix.

We just don't know yet how this is going to pan out.

As I pointed out in the other thread. Even on the consoles they need system ram for the OS and for the game before you even start talking about VRAM.

So lets say this game uses 10.5GB of vram on a console too. That leaves 5.5GB of ram for the OS and for the game it's self. How do you think it will run? Sounds like a rubbish experience to me. These days windows alone with nothing open uses 4GB of ram.

So yes, PC to PC comparisons of VRAM are valid. But console to PC are not. It's not apples to apples comparison.

Windows us full of bloat just to run. Don't compare W10 to a console operating system that could likely run at 2GB just fine because it really doesn't need legacy support and hundreds of extra features that W10 has to cover.

There will be happily 8-10GB of RAM just fine for the graphics in a console.

 

[andybird123]

Anyone putting a £1200 GPU on finance needs to take a long look at themselves.

Interest free, it's a no brainer, I buy everything on credit.
It just means I get a consistent cash flow instead of peaks and troughs, I don't have to "save up" for anything.

 

[gpuerrilla]

I got a couple of my cards on BNPL. Gives me a few months to store the cash aside, cant see anything wrong with that tactic.

 

[Poneros]

Anyone putting a £1200 GPU on finance needs to take a long look at themselves.

The catch is you're gonna need those RT reflections to actually see yourself. Woops!

 

[TNA]

I know about direct storage.
The data goes straight to the GPU memory.
That's why I'm buying the 3090

You need to read how it works though. Don't think you are understanding how RTX IO works.

 

[Mensy]

I think I will be getting 3070 , I don't have 4k monitor, but my question is do I need to upgrade my CPU, I have now ryzen 1600af with 16gig mem 3200mhz, gtx 1660 super , psu 600w

i would think your cpu might bottleneck the gpu, all depends what resolution your gaming at, also the 3070 spec state a 650w psu is recommended

 

[FoxEye]

Interest free, it's a no brainer, I buy everything on credit.
It just means I get a consistent cash flow instead of peaks and troughs, I don't have to "save up" for anything.

I'm not sure it's a "no brainer" or we'd all be doing it Some of us prefer to earn the money before we spend it.

I got a couple of my cards on BNPL. Gives me a few months to store the cash aside, cant see anything wrong with that tactic.

What if you were made redundant or were injured and couldn't work? Do most BNPL schemes offer the dreaded "PPI" and do most people take it?

Or in those circumstances do you just sell the item to pay off the outstanding credit amount?

 

[mrk]

That's just brilliant