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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

I am hoping that with the consoles going all in on RT that we start getting more RT games.

This would be nice, but I sort of suspect it's not going to be true of the mainstream games. The consoles will technically support it in the sense the APIs and codepaths for doing it be there to use, but performance looks like it could be a limitation for visual effects. The PS5 system spec deep dive video had me less than convinced.

I think the best we can hope for is that consoles devs do implement ray tracing but they use aggressive optimization to get it playable. We've seen what looks like ray traced reflections in GT7 but that probably use 1/2 or 1/4 resolution and checkerboard that up to high def. And Ratchet and Clank straight up just excluding geometry and effects from being reflected by rays and the lack of any kind of diffusion of reflected geometry. Same goes for denoising of ray traced outputs, that looks to be missing in some areas as well leading to grainy shadows and lighting. As long as the PC version of the game has tweaks to remove these optimizations, we might get the best of both worlds. But devs aren't well known for their attention to the PC variant of multi-platform games, they quite often just don't care, or cannot justify the cost of time to implement specific tweaks for PC.

There's also the other problem that consoles are behind in terms of frame rate and screen resolution, they're still very much struggling to make that leap from 30fps to 60fps, and from 1080p to 4k and it's far easier to just spend a lot of the additional power on those free wins in terms of image quality rather than go the route of very expensive visual features. I guess time will tell.
 
Them benchmarks are disappointing if they are real thank god I didn’t sell my 2080ti.

Got slight concerns myself TBH. Not convinced by Nvidia’s sales pitch, looks like it’s just RT that’s had a generational leap rather than rasterisation.

Hurry up reviews!
 
@GIGA-Man

I have a Gigabyte rtx 2080 with a 4 year warranty (will be 2 years old at xmas) I am experiencing much higher temps than usual with the fans kicking into full throttle when the card hits 82 degrees. Should I send this in for RMA or can i replace the thermal paste without voiding my warranty?
 
Your loss, I'm afraid.

I bought a 2080ti and PS4 Pro/Switch almost at the same time (first console(s) I've owned in years, I'm a PC Gamer primarily right back to the Duke Nukem 3D/Quake days) and hand on heart I've probably had my best gaming experiences on the consoles, despite getting some great 4k experiences on my PC.

I remember at the time (it was about the time Fallout 76 was coming out *vomits*), I looked at the main PC games, a bunch of live service crap and Fortnite, then I looked at Spider-Man, God of War, Persona 5, Bloodborne, Breath of the Wild and other amazing console exclusive titles. If the consoles ever offered full support for a mouse and keyboard, I'm not even sure I'd own a gaming PC anymore, that's how far behind the PC sphere has fallen.

But anyway, consoles are relevant to Nvidia, no doubt about it.

The only game I miss having a console for is NHL. I like sim racing, sim flying and RTS.

Tried BOTW and gave up after about 10 hours.

it’s probably not good to go off topic though.
 
Your loss, I'm afraid.

I bought a 2080ti and PS4 Pro/Switch almost at the same time (first console(s) I've owned in years, I'm a PC Gamer primarily right back to the Duke Nukem 3D/Quake days) and hand on heart I've probably had my best gaming experiences on the consoles, despite getting some great 4k experiences on my PC.

I remember at the time (it was about the time Fallout 76 was coming out *vomits*), I looked at the main PC games, a bunch of live service crap and Fortnite, then I looked at Spider-Man, God of War, Persona 5, Bloodborne, Breath of the Wild and other amazing console exclusive titles. If the consoles ever offered full support for a mouse and keyboard, I'm not even sure I'd own a gaming PC anymore, that's how far behind the PC sphere has fallen.

But anyway, consoles are relevant to Nvidia, no doubt about it.
Is it, why do you feel my life is incomplete after almost 49years as I do not own a console, please explain!
Both console and PC have their strengths and weaknesses as a platform, the main strength of consoles being lower cost of entry and their exclusive games. Lets not turn this into some silly PC vs console flamefest.
 
I know the new cards have different and better tech in them, but the huge jump in power requirements, looks a bit like Intels +++++ to me? Stay ahead of the opposition by reducing overclocking headroom and upping power draw.

Or am I missing something big?
 
but the huge jump in power requirements, looks a bit like Intels +++++ to me? Stay ahead of the opposition by reducing overclocking headroom and upping power draw.

Thats what i thought as well, there is a reason NV are pushing these new chips hard and i suspect it because they already know AMD will be doing the same.
 
A little off topic.

But seen a few folks mention lg cx oled.

Was thinking of getting one along with the 3080. Coming from an 1080ti

If anyone can PM me, just wanted to know what it's like for gaming and using one as a monitor.
 
I know the new cards have different and better tech in them, but the huge jump in power requirements, looks a bit like Intels +++++ to me? Stay ahead of the opposition by reducing overclocking headroom and upping power draw.

Or am I missing something big?

Yes, 28Billion transistors for 3080 vs 13.8 billion for the 2080 so need more power as there more transistors.
 
I honestly am not sure how you've drawn that conclusion?

The Xbox Series S Digital Edition is £250 with Directx Raytracing and plays all the Xbox S games - okay its a bit of a cut down Xbox S with not the full fat spec but you can see how that against a £650 GPU looks so you can see how the conclusion of consoles offer better value.

One would conclude the full console is £500 or less so again arguably good value against a £650 GPU
 
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A little off topic.

But seen a few folks mention lg cx oled.

Was thinking of getting one along with the 3080. Coming from an 1080ti

If anyone can PM me, just wanted to know what it's like for gaming and using one as a monitor.

There’s a big thread on the 48” CX OLED over on the monitors forum.
 
I know the new cards have different and better tech in them, but the huge jump in power requirements, looks a bit like Intels +++++ to me? Stay ahead of the opposition by reducing overclocking headroom and upping power draw.

Or am I missing something big?

Yeah I am starting to think the same. Apart from the boost in RT and DLSS performance, most of the extra performance this generation has come from just upping the juice which if true means there might not be much overclocking headroom on these.
 
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