Is the RTX 3090 a rip off for £1,400?

[Grim5]

according to one of the "streamers" who's in that 8k demo they did when it was using dlss it was running 60fps ray tracing on at 8k, when dlss was turned off, boom 15fps. personally unless you have a HUGE tv and im talking 80" and 8k obviously it wont matter for now, also the value goes out the window because you're dropping thousands on a tv that will be half the price in 12 months.

I might try to use it anyway. Playing on a 4k TV, some games dont exactly have the best anti aliasing even at 4k and using DLSS to output 8k might improve that. I'll try both but I may just use 8k 60fps DLSS output instead if 4k 120fps DLSS output. Of course if there is not a significant enough visual clarity improvement, I'll go back to high framerate 4k.

I can't see myself buying an 8k TV until at least the RTX4000 card arrive, that should be 2 or 3 TV generations from now and screen prices will be 1/3rd of what they are now.

 

[GAC]

I might try to use it anyway. Playing on a 4k TV, some games dont exactly have the best anti aliasing and using DLSS to output 8k might improve that. I'll try both but I may just use 8k 60fps DLSS output instead if 4k 120fps DLSS output.

or just go 1080p and overclock the refresh

 

[B1gbeard]

However, I think people would still complain that the 3090 is a ripoff. Not because thay need the FPS but because they need the best. Mans desire for the best puts the 3090 on a pedestal. Some men like to feel like they're part of an elite. It's beyond a desire for a good framerate like the 3070 and 3080 are for.

Have you seen any of that though? I haven't seen anyone say "Look at me, I'm getting a 3090". What there always is though at a new GPU release is an almost bitter obsession with people who are going to buy the fastest card. Generally hidden behind smiley faces but it often manifests itself by just outright childish name calling. That is definitely a male trait. The thought that someone is going to one up them annoys them to a point where they name call and try to diminish what someone else wants to do with their money.

And yes I know, they could all afford to buy 6 if they wanted.

 

[Bindlestiff]

Compare this to the RTX 3080, which is less than half the price and has 82% of the shaders, but 'just' 10GB of VRAM. The profit margin on the 3090 has gotta be at least £300-400 (we know NVIDIA's overall net profit is around 30% in most months).

Does anyone disagree, or, is money simply no object?

It is definitely not good value, but if I had the money I'd find it hard not to be tempted by it.

 

[HRL]

Have you seen any of that though? I haven't seen anyone say "Look at me, I'm getting a 3090". What there always is though at a new GPU release is an almost bitter obsession with people who are going to buy the fastest card. Generally hidden behind smiley faces but it often manifests itself by just outright childish name calling. That is definitely a male trait. The thought that someone is going to one up them annoys them to a point where they name call and try to diminish what someone else wants to do with their money.

And yes I know, they could all afford to buy 6 if they wanted.

It is bizarre behaviour, isn’t it. Almost exclusively in the GPU section too.

Don’t see many people mocking people for purchasing the 3950X for example, and they’re not exactly cheap.

I’m eyeing a 3090 but much as I’ve registered interest in the Nvidia store, I won’t purchase one unless it’s a big boost over the 3080. Looking forward to reviews that’s for sure.

 

[Confuzz]

I don't think it will be a massive boost over the 3080 just enough to temp those people who find it hard to resist owning the card that is top off the framerate tables.

 

[Gregster]

Only a rip off if they know the price and suddenly get charged more than what is stated.

 

[Greebo]

Looking at Nvidia's own benchmarks its only 50% faster than titan rtx for gaming at 4k so its the same performance than 3080 as that is 50% than the 2080ti.

Problem is as more information comes out it would appear the 3080 might only be 20-30% faster than the 2080ti so does that mean the 3090 is only 20-30% faster than a titan rtx then?

 

[Gregster]

Sorry I had to stop reading because of the tears in my eyes from laughing too hard at the phrase "as soon as AMD competes".

Well to point it correctly, he states "I AMD competes" meaning that he either works for AMD or he will deffo be getting an AMD card and begging it to compete but yes, funny as post

 

[GAC]

Problem is as more information comes out it would appear the 3080 might only be 20-30% faster than the 2080ti so does that mean the 3090 is only 20-30% faster than a titan rtx then?

so only a min of 20% faster at rendering stuff then for people its aimed at. yeah thats a rip off lol. for people using this for 3d rendering and video rendering if they use their current 2080ti or titans 40 hours a week the 3090 will have 8 hours of being available to do something else possibly. give it 12 months and its paid for itself.

again this is for people who use them for things other than gaming.

 

[sandys]

I'll see what the reviews are like but if it is the fastest thing available and offers and appreciable step over a 3080 then I might just go for it, considering new features that may get adopted over time of ownership due to consoles like direct GPU level decompression etc and the res I will be gaming at 10Gb sounds like it might be a limiter and if I am to rip up my loop to put new hardware in for the next few years I'll just pick up the best available as I likely not change it once done for another couple of Gens, always done it that way, always served me well.

I am of course hoping that the AMD cards might offer something of a challenge, so no rush to adopt one just yet.

 

[Flake87]

One reviewer on YouTube claimed the 3090 is not really aimed at gamers, but at businesses and developers who need the features it has, He went on to say that the features it does have such as 8K 60fps or 4K 120fps probably aren't going to be much real world use to the vast majority of gamers. His thinking was that there will always be people who want to buy the best for buying the bests sake, or with so much cash it doesn't matter to them, but with this generation the 3080 will almost certainly cover every gamers requirements until the 40 series is released.

 

[Greebo]

One reviewer on YouTube claimed the 3090 is not really aimed at gamers, but at businesses and developers who need the features it has, He went on to say that the features it does have such as 8K 60fps or 4K 120fps probably aren't going to be much real world use to the vast majority of gamers. His thinking was that there will always be people who want to buy the best for buying the bests sake, or with so much cash it doesn't matter to them, but with this generation the 3080 will almost certainly cover every gamers requirements until the 40 series is released.

Thats just his opinion and I am not sure a 3090 is going to give you 120fps @ 4k in every current game, never mind the ones coming out shortly. Therre are a few current games it might finally give you a constant minimum 60fps, certainly not 120.

If you have a 4k 120Mhz screen like the LG OLED then you really should splash the cash for the 3090.

 

[Nablaoperator]

That's the only upgrade path I have. Currently, I am running 2x 2080 ti that I got at launch.. 24 gb looks too high for gaming.. does it make sense to wait for the 3080 ti, any reliable rumor to that effect?

 

[Greebo]

That's the only upgrade path I have. Currently, I am running 2x 2080 ti that I got at launch.. 24 gb looks too high for gaming.. does it make sense to wait for the 3080 ti, any reliable rumor to that effect?

No it would be a guess. ANyway, just like me, I would perhaps wait for all the reviews and AMD etc as in games where SLI works, a single 3090 isnt going to give you a performance boost anyway (unless you were thinking of getting two of them?)

 

[Nablaoperator]

Yes two
I was thinking of getting 2 FEs.. but I have a 3 spacer mobo.. has anyone tried to SLI with no more than a hair's breadth between 2 cards.

I generally won't prefer to upgrade if I miss the launch window by more than 3 months.. decisions, decisions

 

[sandys]

with a few cards water is the way forward.

 

[Chivaro]

3090 is the 8k capable card, so not really a rip off as 8k isn't cheap at the moment. You pay for the best. You get the best.

 

[Nablaoperator]

3090 is the 8k capable card, so not really a rip off as 8k isn't cheap at the moment. You pay for the best. You get the best.

Not exactly, when was the last time you saw a Ti and non Ti part based off the same core.. and here it's being branded as a completely different class 3800 vs 3900.. somehow you get the feeling that you are being ripped off a bit.. the value thing kinda plays out subconsciously

 

[NRosko]

One reviewer on YouTube claimed the 3090 is not really aimed at gamers, but at businesses and developers who need the features it has, He went on to say that the features it does have such as 8K 60fps or 4K 120fps probably aren't going to be much real world use to the vast majority of gamers. His thinking was that there will always be people who want to buy the best for buying the bests sake, or with so much cash it doesn't matter to them, but with this generation the 3080 will almost certainly cover every gamers requirements until the 40 series is released.

I need a good card for VR & playing fs 2020, I might need the extra power & ram. So I'm sure there are those that will buy it for those reasons & there are people like me who want a card that can cope with the games & hardware i like & want to get the best out of. For the majority of gamers & that would be those with 1080p monitors i doubt any of these cards are needed.