ARCHIVE - *** NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 SERIES STOCK SITUATION *** - NO COMPETITOR DISCUSSION

[Dean Guile]

Thats from another retailer. From the 17th September (launch day)

https://twitter.com/CyberPowerUK/status/1306578752726536192

aww damn

 

[sp3ctre]

470s are not CHEAP 220s and 330s are... People are stupid enough to judge parts by how they look instead of what they are when having NO CLUE about electronic parts...

I thought someone posted a video the other day of a gb eagle which showed it didn’t have 470’s

 

[PrincessFrosty]

Sorry, I should have been clearer. What I mean is that at the moment we log into the web shop with OUR credentials (so the website credentials, not the SQL credentials). To add a queue page would mean that it would need to hook into whatever authentication API the webshop uses, and be written securely. If they don't have web developers (and honestly why should they need them on hand?) that are familiar with that webshop API it will be an uphill battle to make sure it's done securely. Most places generally buy an e-store/webshop product, pay a design team to make it look nice/on brand perhaps include any features they want/need.

Hence why I thought the one-off email, or even a daily/weekly email that is generated as you say based on a SQL script outside of the webshop might be the easier way.

Anyway all speculation (and that's always good too). We don't know what expertise they have on hand, or what they intend to do in this regard.

Yeah you personally log into your account on the web store with your personal credentials, but when the web store connects to the database in the back end to check your creds are right, and so it can pull all your data, it's connecting to the database with the DB's username and password. That's something abstracted away from your login, it's a password the code behind uses to query the database for both authentication as users but also to pull account info that you see on your account page. You don't need to hook APIs, that's my point, you literally just fire an SQL query to the database bypassing any kind of built in abstraction. You just need to write a page that sits in your account section that if you visit it, connects to the back end database directly and runs a static SQL query and outputs the result to the page, that's like the simplest possible interaction you could have with SQL. It's so incredibly simple it's pretty much the kind of thing you'd offer to newbies as a tutorial for learning SQL, to connect to the database and return a count of something to the screen. As me and several other self admitted devs have said, it's extremely trivial it's 15m work for an experienced developer.

At the end of the day, all the APIs and lovely complex code of web stores, it doesn't matter, if the data goes into a database, you can always connect directly to that database, execute an SELECT statement on that database, count whatever data you want to count and put that to a page on the site. Ignoring all APIs and web store code, and being completely safe since it's read only and only returning aggregated statistics and no personal data.

 

[RGNo]

Get off it... It’s a god damn GPU not your first born!

What do you want a retailer to work on when it has no stock to send to customers exactly?

It can’t magic GPUs from warehouse lines in Taiwan, or from a container on a boat, or a pallet on a plane...

Stop acting so self-entitled.

Bro just stop it... we paid 700 quid for this GPU, money doesn't grow on trees and it's a big investment, better communication is the minimum I don't understand being so apologetic

 

[chaparral]

That only 41 cards so would maybe cover the first 10 seconds of orders

As wasn't there 1000's of orders at ocuk ?

 

[fizzy6868]

What I like is all the bots now have cards that are crap. If jays2cent is right then companys can actually leave them and cap them to 1710mz as that is the promised base clock.

 

[OG Don Mecca]

not sure if you guys have seen this today? https://youtu.be/THMukcOzB8g Happy Sunday all !

i seen this day before launch of FB and MSI commented saying "if sombody dont turn the one box the right way up were taking thewm all back" lmao

 

[neikosr0x]

Get off it... It’s a god damn GPU not your first born!

What do you want a retailer to work on when it has no stock to send to customers exactly?

It can’t magic GPUs from warehouse lines in Taiwan, or from a container on a boat, or a pallet on a plane...

Stop acting so self-entitled.

Well man, it isn't self-entitled really. Is not like you just bought a 2£ bottle of juice, and it certainly is not for free... You are entitled to know whats going on and of course, you can't expect them to work 24/7 but... It is Sunday and yes I am working...

 

[Goosy]

Well man, it isn't self-entitled really. Is not like you just bought a 2£ bottle of juice, and it certainly is not for free... You are entitled to know whats going on and of course, you can't expect them to work 24/7 but... It is Sunday and yes I am working...

They told people the stock situation and will update us when they get more information. Crying on the forum about it won't help.

 

[willhub]

I do hope we get a definitive idea of how long we'll have to wait for our cards, I placed my TUF order about 4 days ago knowing there is going to be a wait, but if the wait is over 2 months it probably would be wise to cancel.

 

[Nutloose]

they are taking them out of pre-built systems apparently, so not a box production issue, just a sign of how desperate people are to get their card and how badly the launch has been handled.

You sure they are not just Oem stock, companies building PC’s etc buy OEM units, they do not need all the flash packaging that comes with retail cards. I have bought OEM items in the past.

 

[OmniSnr]

These cards are not coming anytime soon. Yo ! Pay £ 2000 on ebay or wait 1-5 months for your card, it is that simple.

wonder how many ebay b******s will be out of pocket now? Given the technical issue, would you buy from somewhere with no warranty ? Sorry, been off line for a bit so this may already have been covered

 

[iamtheoneneo]

Well man, it isn't self-entitled really. Is not like you just bought a 2£ bottle of juice, and it certainly is not for free... You are entitled to know whats going on and of course, you can't expect them to work 24/7 but... It is Sunday and yes I am working...

But they have been telling people the situation. Problem is certain buyers don't like that answer and/or are in denial somehow expecting a chinnok to drop a massive batch into the ocuk warehouse on a Sunday night.

Some buyers simply can't accept that they purchased something that they will likely not see in their computers until November or likely December.

And instead of cancelling they will hold it against OCUK because 'the took our monies' and that means they now deserve 24/7 customer support.

 

[Starocean85]

Bro just stop it... we paid 700 quid for this GPU, money doesn't grow on trees and it's a big investment, better communication is the minimum I don't understand being so apologetic

Seems some people are happy with anything. The guy says we're self entitled for expecting a basic update afer handing the company £649+. We haven't had an official update in 3 days. That may not seem like a long time, but when they're sitting with your £649+, it's a very long time. OCUK taken full whack up front, for cards they haven't a clue when they'll receive. Should have been a non refundable deposit and locked in price. They've totally over sold these cards. They're getting 50 units a week at most and some models have in excess of 2000 orders.

I cancelled my order. There was a few factors but one of was the lack of updates. They had a guy on here called 8Ball? yesterday basically making fun of people for stressing over all this. Not sure I want to deal with them again. Think i'll take future purchases elsewhere. Was actually going to upgrade my cpu and mobo next, but it won't be with OCUK.

But they have been telling people the situation. Problem is certain buyers don't like that answer and/or are in denial somehow expecting a chinnok to drop a massive batch into the ocuk warehouse on a Sunday night.

Some buyers simply can't accept that they purchased something that they will likely not see in their computers until November or likely December.

And instead of cancelling they will hold it against OCUK because 'the took our monies' and that means they now deserve 24/7 customer support.

What reason did OCUK have to take full money up front? Surely a non refundable deposit with locked in price would be more fair? You're giving them money for cards that probably haven't even been produced yet.

 

[69Dude]

As me and several other self admitted devs have said, it's extremely trivial it's 15m work for an experienced developer.

More like 30 minutes then change management and regression testing through the environments. A day at most.

 

[ShortWarning]

Well I've officially cancelled my Zotac order (ordered at 14:33 position 27 in the unofficial calculator).

I know most of you probably think I'm stupid it's just, £700 is quite a lot to me and it's for something I plan on keeping for at least 3-4 years. Knowing that I paid over the odds for the worst iteration of the card would really grind on me over that time, add to that a lot of 3080's in general are having problems I feel it was right for me.

For now, I will wait to see what AMD release and if it's better than the 3080 I will go for that if not I'll try to pick up an FE whenever they are available (knowing that could be 6 months+).

In the meantime I have a PS5 and a series S on pre order which should keep my gaming itch scratched. The only game I wanted to play for now which would really stretch the 3080's legs was cyberpunk but I can live with playing that on PS5.

I'll keep my trusty Vega 64 for now.

 

[cluck]

They told people the stock situation and will update us when they get more information. Crying on the forum about it won't help.

, prayin' on the forum won't do you no good
Now cryin' on the forum won't help you, prayin' on the forum won't do you no good
When the gpu breaks mama you got to move
All last night sat on the forum and moaned
All last night sat on the forum and moaned
Thinkin' 'bout me 3080 and my happy home
Going to overclock it oh no
Going to overclock it oh no

 

[Zeed]

I thought someone posted a video the other day of a gb eagle which showed it didn’t have 470’s

Well i know for sure EAGLE 3090 uses 470s cant find no 3080 back of pvb photo. But I'd assume they will use same on all cards.
But as I said Caps wont matter the issue is with Boost algoritm being too aggressive and pushing silicone too far.

 

[Nutloose]

I would have enquired if they would do a possible different item and retain your place.

I agree about cost and time, mine is to replace a couple of SLI’d strix 970’s. and I will simply wait, yes I’ve read all the reports re card problems, but it’ll all come right in the end.

Having ordered a Tuf OC I appear to be on the lucky side of things, but I look at it if they all bring a software fix out, I will still be quids in, in performance gain wise and if they do reduce the cards slightly, if they were originally sold at the reduced setting and everyone was unaware, people would still be clamouring to get them.

panic breeds panic and people read into things often more than is fact, to the detriment of good sense.

 

[SniperSmithy]

Higher number is better vs the lower number for the pscap gigabyte use, different styles of components have different costs and materials and also its not 100% the root of the issue though they can contribute to the problem.

Tons of people trying to look into the problem which is cool but silicon quality is definitely factor, from the looks of it might be more what the gpu voltage is getting rather than what its boosting to. Someone who was crashing at 2025mhz boost saw the gpu voltage spike to 1.1v, when they locked it to 1.05v they maintained a 2050mhz boost,

Giga are using the higher rated ones, think you've got mixed up. They are using 470s on every image I have seen. Palit are using the cheapest ones I've seen yet at 220uF.

And for all those moaning about no updates today... It's Sunday ffs. Live your lives people seriously life is too short.