I think the 3090 is going to get quite a bit faster once it is optimised in the drivers.
The hardware is there but at the moment the software is not making the best of it.
Some one posted a video about this the other day.
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Who's waiting for the 3090 and which brand are you getting?
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I think the 3090 is going to get quite a bit faster once it is optimised in the drivers.
The hardware is there but at the moment the software is not making the best of it.
Some one posted a video about this the other day.
When you build a multi platform game you have to build it for the lowest power platform so it runs on that system. You then port it to high power systems and maybe add a few bells and whistles on. The games engine still runs like **** and is poorly optimised in 9/10 games with the exceptions being rare. This is why console games are ported to PC and not the other way around.
Also you visuals point is none sensicle. Do you realise that VRAM has no bearing on what visuals you can run when you are talking about 10GB upwards?
Next gen console releases don't happen very often and when they do they are playing catch up with PCs, not the other way round.
I have every intension of getting a couple of 3090s and SLIing them for a bit of fun and really don't care what they are worth in a couple of years.
At the moment I am roughing it a bit with a pair of RTX Titans in SLI and a Titan Volta for PhysX.
Kaap, I was thinking of grabbing a 3080 20Gb and a 3090, I currently have a 980ti Classy and would that be fine as a PhysX card to go with one of the 3080 or 3090 ? I was thinking about it other day and thought about it as I really don't want to sell the 980ti Classy as I actually really like it and one of my favourite cards.
What you think, worth doing it or sell it ? Also like the idea of keeping it as a spare GPU in case of disaster or you know the sell your old card and wait for stock to appear for next upgrade. All my systems don't have integrated graphics so need a GPU to see anything.
Except we dont. This was reported as the biggest generation gain since the 8800GTX. It turns out that was rubbish and it only gave 15-30% just like every card Nvidia has produced for the last 10+ years.
I miss the days when we used to get 30-50% gains with a gfx card launch or the 80-100% that the 8800gtx gave us.
It uses 6-8GB in Nightmare at 4k?
You won't get much by selling your 980 Ti so probably best to keep it as a spare or use for PhysX, only problem is there are not many games around that use it these days.
So do i and obviously with the right bios like Asus, the 3090 shines at 480W (assuming you are under water)
Even without driver updates, the 3090 is at least 20% faster than a 3080 and 50% faster than a 2080ti which were my two criteria for buying one. I wanted a 50% step up.
I think someone needs to buy this man a 3090
No, he wouldn't accept it out of pure anger for its existence.
Your overall frame *rate* is NOT at all affected by a lack of VRAM.
Sure, you would have frame *drops* when there is not enough unused VRAM left and data needs to be swapped in and out. But once that's done the frame rate will normalise to what it was before that, given the same memory bandwidth it doesn't matter for your frame rate if you have 4GB or 24GB.
If you don't have enough VRAM then you just don't have enough VRAM period but we're not talking about a drop in performance, we're talking about the performance tanking overall beyond playable as data is constantly swapped in and out. They're just not the same thing.
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Got an email last week saying my Strix OC 3090 is dispatching Monday 4th.
We'll see....
That makes the average framerate for doom eternal 20% lower though and even worse if its as you describe eg it goes along at 60 fps and then drops to 30 fps as it swaps data in when it runs out of memory and then back up to 60fps for a few seconds and then back down to 30fps. What an unplayable mess.
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Most multi platform games run on well optimised, massively scalable game engines like UE4. You do not make a game in UE4 and target the lowest denominator. That is simply not true.
Okay who's going to make tea ?
I think fx1 just wants to let some steam off today and have a rant.. I did same other day too when Nvidia screwed me for a 3090fe 15 times in basket and week before didn't even have a chance to see the 3080 in stock
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Okay reality time a lot of people are buying these GPUs for work too not just gaming and reality is the people buying them for gaming well hobbies sadly are expensive, name me a cheap hobby ? Life is short let people enjoy what makes them happy, geeze I have spent money I didn't even have to buy something that I needed for work or to cheer me up to get on with life..
The point is not performance fx1 or Vram blaa blaa it's the rude way you dished it out that's upset most of us here, and you are talking to a lot of very knowledgeable people here not redit brats or youtube kids commenting. The guys replying back to you are people you want to listen to when you need help with when your speak and spell breaks down, they will know how to fix it..
All of them know about VRAM issues and none issues but most want to make sure they dont have issues and most here are not using their systems for gaming only... remember that , you are also talking to many professional people that use their computers for more then minecraft or solitaire..
We agree with you about things but the way you are doing it isn't nice mate.. Greebo has even said reality a few times a 2080ti that clocks well is basically a 3080.. with 1GB vram more...Look at the power use of these stupid cards that tells you enough compared to last gen, imagine sticking 400w+ threw a 2080ti and can keep temps under control under a normal environment. What would you get ?
Nvidia is doing the old same rubbish when it can't make a card better than its last one by upping the power use to silly levels again as they have done many times in the past when their cards didn't work well (faster than last gen) at sensible power use..
Look at what is happening with these cards 3080 and 3090 crashing... while Nvidia slips a driver "Update" that will as we know make the cards not clock high and keep them from crashing.. The drivers before were for all the e-peen people benchmarking so they can make it look like they are fast.. All reviews after the crashing fixed drivers need to be redone and all benchmarks to give a real performance without crashing... Also wait for AIBs that will push VBIOS updates too.. to lessen the performance of all cards showing problems.
Reality is Nvidia pulled a fast one again on all of us... 3090 is basically a 2080ti with 24gb Vram and almost 50% performance boost at more expensive than 2080ti previously and they are trying to make us justify the price hike because of the 24GB Vram.. which is basically what we are paying for here a better chip with less fused off areas and more VRAM and higher power use.
FX1 we are all annoyed really with Nvidia from people waiting to buy to people that have purchased to people realising reality of what has happened since release of these cards.. But some of us really need an update and some of us really need it for work or as some have done sold their 2080tis and sat with machines they can't use right now. It's really all a big mess and we have only Nvidia to thank for this and the silly fake hype they cause. 2x performance while they try staying quiet about hey 350W radiator you will get for free too.
I think fx1 just wants to let some steam off today and have a rant.. I did same other day too when Nvidia screwed me for a 3090fe 15 times in basket and week before didn't even have a chance to see the 3080 in stock
..Okay reality time a lot of people are buying these GPUs for work too not just gaming and reality is the people buying them for gaming well hobbies sadly are expensive, name me a cheap hobby ? Life is short let people enjoy what makes them happy, geeze I have spent money I didn't even have to buy something that I needed for work or to cheer me up to get on with life..
The point is not performance fx1 or Vram blaa blaa it's the rude way you dished it out that's upset most of us here, and you are talking to a lot of very knowledgeable people here not redit brats or youtube kids commenting. The guys replying back to you are people you want to listen to when you need help with when your speak and spell breaks down, they will know how to fix it..
All of them know about VRAM issues and none issues but most want to make sure they dont have issues and most here are not using their systems for gaming only... remember that , you are also talking to many professional people that use their computers for more then minecraft or solitaire..
We agree with you about things but the way you are doing it isn't nice mate.. Greebo has even said reality a few times a 2080ti that clocks well is basically a 3080.. with 1GB vram more...Look at the power use of these stupid cards that tells you enough compared to last gen, imagine sticking 400w+ threw a 2080ti and can keep temps under control under a normal environment. What would you get ?
Nvidia is doing the old same rubbish when it can't make a card better than its last one by upping the power use to silly levels again as they have done many times in the past when their cards didn't work well (faster than last gen) at sensible power use..Look at what is happening with these cards 3080 and 3090 crashing... while Nvidia slips a driver "Update" that will as we know make the cards not clock high and keep them from crashing.. The drivers before were for all the e-peen people benchmarking so they can make it look like they are fast.. All reviews after the crashing fixed drivers need to be redone and all benchmarks to give a real performance without crashing... Also wait for AIBs that will push VBIOS updates too.. to lessen the performance of all cards showing problems.
Reality is Nvidia pulled a fast one again on all of us... 3090 is basically a 2080ti with 24gb Vram and almost 50% performance boost at more expensive than 2080ti previously and they are trying to make us justify the price hike because of the 24GB Vram.. which is basically what we are paying for here a better chip with less fused off areas and more VRAM and higher power use.
FX1 we are all annoyed really with Nvidia from people waiting to buy to people that have purchased to people realising reality of what has happened since release of these cards.. But some of us really need an update and some of us really need it for work or as some have done sold their 2080tis and sat with machines they can't use right now. It's really all a big mess and we have only Nvidia to thank for this and the silly fake hype they cause. 2x performance while they try staying quiet about hey 350W radiator you will get for free too.
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