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But I don't care about potentials, i want to know numbers, facts.
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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But I don't care about potentials, i want to know numbers, facts.
As mentioned, there could be other things coming into play. There's a thread on here that showed a 5700XT spiking momentarily to over 400W, slightly more than a 2080Ti that was also tested. I'm interested in seeing what the 3080 and 3090 spike at.
I've also been really surprised at the number of people on an enthusiast forum with quite low spec PSUs and wanting to run 3080s!
Which is why I said they should be retested to find out the facts? 0.o Which you seemed to have a problem with and then went on the 'it's probably nothing so who cares' defence.
Enthusiast doesn't mean smart
Nvidia have said they would release more and they have but obviously due to demand they've been snapped up.
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No, look, you should be asking the guys with the cards first - not asking for the reviews to be redone. Its unnecessary. IF people are reporting significant drops in performance then I'd be calling for reviews to be redone. as it stands, right now, there are at least two people (in the 2 minutes I could be bothered to check) in the ampere thread who are reporting higher sustained clocks and lower temps. I know right, the horror!
The point is, I think you're being a little over-eager with the pitchfork and you need to wait and see what the people, the ones who actually own the cards, say before calling for a burning at the stake. That's exactly why i asked you what the detriment to performance was - i knew you didn't have the answer.
Anyway, if you want to keep talking about ampere, let's do it in the right thread. With the guys who own the cards.
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Like closing a vulnerability (wedge of them) found which makes the chip far less faster in benchmarks under certain scenarios.. but we wont go there!
^This.
It seems to only be an obsession on enthusiast forums and discussion boards.
In the real world, price and performance are much more important than graphic card naming and tiering. Also, not forgetting colour
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Dammit I want a UFO and I want it now!
That looks appealing, too much price wise for me but I reckon all the options on RDR2 could well be maxed at 4K.
I do! Would again if I had a decently priced option.No one buys 3090 SLI to play games, so I wouldn't know
Like closing a vulnerability (wedge of them) found which makes the chip far less faster in benchmarks under certain scenarios.. but we wont go there!
As people have pointed out though the cards still boost to (and above) their advertised speeds - this fix just tunes behaviour, albeit in a bit of a brute force way, to closer match individual chip quality.
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People have shown the new drivers to be giving better performance, as clocks more steady etc....
Did you upgrade to a C9?
As far as I know not officially, but apparently there is a cru hack or something like that to make it work. I mean end of the day the tv is VRR and there is no module in there, so there is no reason apart from marketing that it should not work.
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Judging by the amount of people desperate to buy one, it looks like Nvidia fans accept any excuse though.
I was amazed how many were buying the 2080ti at the height of its memory issues.
The only time an excuse for crashing is unacceptable is when it's an AMD card it seems.
It's perfectly necessary. Reviewers have established procedures, proper equipment and good methodology (generally). Much more reliable than Bob down the road putting his 3080 in a HP Pavilion. You say you want facts but are complaining that I suggest it be looked at properly to see if there was an effect. Hell it could have improved things for the reviews.
What pitchfork? All I've said is that it is more than just a 'normal driver fix' and any potential tweaking of TDP/Boost clocks should be looked at *in case* we get a Zotac situation. I wasn't claiming to know the outcome, I was suggesting that it should be checked, as my post https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/34007103/ shows.
That is great, seems like the changes were needed. It'll be interesting if the 0.1%'s are better due to it not bouncing its head off the ceiling.
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Nope, don't agree. Your whole point hinged on reviews being invalidated, but since you have no idea what affect the drivers are having on the cards then at best your opinion is flawed. It's an overreaction calling for reviews to be redone before you have any real information. Feel free to continue this in the ampere thread where it's more relevant.
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'real information' is gained from properly controlled reviews, to say you want facts and the truth but refuse the possibility that they should be looked at properly is daft. My whole point hinged on that they should be checked as TDP/clock changes after release may change the baseline that they were reviewed on. I didn't state it would be a negative change, in fact, I said there could be no difference at all. I also didn't state I knew the answer like you bizarrely claimed previously. You just jumped into defence mode.
Why bother? You've said you don't agree. I don't have much more to add beyond restating my position as you attempt to twist it.
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No i havent twisted anything. I wanted to knew if you had any hard numbers to justify your stance and you didnt. I knew you wouldnt. I havent defended nVidia either; I havent defended anyone. So it's not me twisting words.
Take this to the ampere thread where it belongs. you are off topic.
Take this to the ampere thread where it belongs. you are off topic.
My stance was "if they changed tdp and clocks post release it should be tested properly to see if there is a difference". Your demand for hard numbers to 'justify' my stance utterly misses the point.
Lol, Thanks Mystic Meg. Was it the fact that I said reviews should be rerun for solid numbers on the changes that tipped you off? 0.o
Since when have you or anyone ever kept topic in these threads? As I've said, I don't have an additional point beyond correcting your bizarre readings of my stance. You've said you don't agree (although you go on to misrepresent my point). That's the discussion over. I'm not taking it across multiple threads for you to play act as a Mod for some faux authority.
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it was your overreaction. I did say that, more than once. And It's up to all of us to stay on topic. don't be so juvenile.
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