AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.

d_brennen · 5 Oct 2020 at 14:16

The "I can't here my x570 chipset fan for the hundredth time" obligatory post

I'm more concerned about getting a replacement a few years down the line... This PC may be with me for a while with a high core count 5xxx CPU upgrade.

LePhuronn · 5 Oct 2020 at 14:20

d_brennen said:
I'm more concerned about getting a replacement a few years down the line...

I don't think there's nothing special about the fans themselves, plenty of small and slim PWM fans on that Chinese site.

MoX_Farrow · 5 Oct 2020 at 14:22

ChrisD. said:
I hate mine on my Threadripper build, my whole PC is watercooled and very quiet and when the chipset fan spins up it's rather intrusive.

So you'd say you're not a fan?

Journey · 5 Oct 2020 at 14:26

d_brennen said:
The "I can't here my x570 chipset fan for the hundredth time" obligatory post

I'm more concerned about getting a replacement a few years down the line... This PC may be with me for a while with a high core count 5xxx CPU upgrade.

I mitigated that for someone I built a machine for, the simplicity was astonishing. I e-mailed ASRock and asked them to buy a replacement fan for an X570 Taichi, the sent one for free, I pooped it in his motherboard box with the rest of the gubbins.

MoX_Farrow · 5 Oct 2020 at 14:51

Journey said:
...I pooped it in his motherboard box with the rest of the gubbins.

That poor man.

ChrisD. · 5 Oct 2020 at 14:53

jigger said:
Then it’s not wholly water cooled.

Buy an RTX 3000. You’ll never hear the chipset again. You’ll also never see the PCI-E slots again.

It's cost prohibitive to watercool the chipset on a threadripper platform.

jigger · 5 Oct 2020 at 14:59

I have a pair of fans on a Asus Z97 board.

I’ve also got the original two from a dead Z77 board. The fans outlasted the board.

ChrisD. said:
It's cost prohibitive to watercool the chipset on a threadripper platform.

Universal chipset blocks are pretty cheap. Certainly less than a CPU/video card block.

Steampunk · 5 Oct 2020 at 15:16

uscool said:
are chipset fans really an issue now yes I rather not have them, I remember years ago they just spin regardless of temp or stress and failed, dont they now only spin at controlled RPM and only when system has load ?

It's an issue for some people. Usually the people who remember having them on chipsets or even CPUs. They are **** and are a step backwards, especially if you want to buy a good motherboard and keep it for some time. It's like spending big money on a high performance sports car, and finding it comes with drum brakes all round. It's a fly in your soup, a long hair in your burger, a nasty stain on your hotel bed linen. The sooner they are gone, the better.

Journey · 5 Oct 2020 at 15:24

MoX_Farrow said:
That poor man.

I hate my phone sometimes!

However, my point remains, people who whine and moan more than the fans do, can easily mitigate the failure of a fan if they intended to keep the system for 5+ years.

jigger · 5 Oct 2020 at 15:29

Steampunk said:
It's an issue for some people. Usually the people who remember having them on chipsets or even CPUs. They are **** and are a step backwards, especially if you want to buy a good motherboard and keep it for some time. It's like spending big money on a high performance sports car, and finding it comes with drum brakes all round. It's a fly in your soup, a long hair in your burger, a nasty stain on your hotel bed linen. The sooner they are gone, the better.

The Gordon Murray T50. Probably the greatest car that will ever be made. That’s partly down to the use of a really big fan adding to its performance.

LePhuronn · 5 Oct 2020 at 15:37

ChrisD. said:
It's aesthetically prohibitive to watercool the chipset on a threadripper platform.

Fixed it for you

Drop multiple thousands on a watercooled Threadripper setup, yet £20 for a chipset block is cost prohibitive? It would be an utter pig to install and an utter pig to look at.

FoxEye · 5 Oct 2020 at 15:43

So we can just agree that chipset fans are bad, then.

I hope the x670 does not have one

Journey · 5 Oct 2020 at 15:44

FoxEye said:
So we can just agree that chipset fans are bad, then.

I hope the x670 does not have one

Any small whiny fan is bad, that's much easier to agree on.

FoxEye · 5 Oct 2020 at 16:29

Journey said:
I hate my phone sometimes!

However, my point remains, people who whine and moan more than the fans do, can easily mitigate the failure of a fan if they intended to keep the system for 5+ years.

If your phone is suggesting "pooped" in a sentence, then it must have learned that from the "other" sites you visit on a regular basis

jigger · 5 Oct 2020 at 16:31

It depends if you need the cooling. If you have a few PCI-E 4 devices working away at full tilt, cooling = maximum performance.

N19h7m4r3 · 5 Oct 2020 at 16:38

Journey said:
Any small whiny fan is bad, that's much easier to agree on.

Was never an issue on the Voodoo5 9000! Now suddenly they're an issue! Youngins these days

Journey · 5 Oct 2020 at 16:38

FoxEye said:
If your phone is suggesting "pooped" in a sentence, then it must have learned that from the "other" sites you visit on a regular basis

Sadly yes, or alternatively it may have learned it from the swipe keyboard I use and a preferred prediction.

jigger · 5 Oct 2020 at 16:41

N19h7m4r3 said:
Was never an issue on the Voodoo5 9000! Now suddenly they're an issue! Youngins these days

It’s not an issue now. In most desktop situations the fan is off.

Journey · 5 Oct 2020 at 16:42

N19h7m4r3 said:
Was never an issue on the Voodoo5 9000! Now suddenly they're an issue! Youngins these days

I know they've had it easy. Then again, we voluntarily put delta fans in PC's, so small whiny fans were out gunned buy much larger, much whinier fans.

FoxEye · 5 Oct 2020 at 16:52

I don't want a chipset fan out of sheer prejudice against chipset fans. Phobia even. Anti-fanism.

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