AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.

[deuse]

From what AMD is telling us next update will be a DDR5 motherboard and new chipset, so this will be the last update for the X570 B550 X470 B450 boards, they will be moving onto a new CPU design and pin layout AM5 I guess they are calling it. SO The 5950X will be the last in that range unless they come out with a XT with minor frequency bumps at best. SO think of it as a dead platform after getting a 5950x and next round is DDR5 and new cpu pinouts and chipset.

Thanks again...

 

[LePhuronn]

If I buy a motherboard for a Ryzen 9 5950X
Will I be able to use the next AMD CPUs in the mobo?

Define "next mobo". There are refreshes of X570 coming for Zen 3, but anything after this is likely to be a new socket.

 

[Kelt]

Outdated ? come on really... Go get a coffee and get off the hype train... Your cpu is in the top 1% of what most people own. See this mentality is the cause of the never ending scalping and gouging.. Your CPU will be fine for many years to come and you will notice no difference if you are 1440P + gamer..

Exactly.

I run an ex-server chip, an X5650 @ 4.4Ghz, went to it from a Q6600 @ 3.6Ghz that was getting CPU bound.

The X5650 chews up any modern multi-cored game with ease, leaving me totally GPU bound.

When it starts to get CPU bound (if ever), I'll change it, otherwise still looking not to upgrade until AMD5 is out.

The idea that a 3900X is suddenly "outdated" overnight!

 

[LePhuronn]

Thanks.

Well my idea is out the window.

I was going to cancel my ASUS Strix 3090 from OCUK and get the best cpu and mother board, and with the change buy the new AMD GPU

I'd say go for it. Intel won't have a counter for Zen 3 any time soon, and arguably by the time they do AMD will be on Zen 4 and shifted the goalposts again. And if those 5950X numbers prove to be accurate in the real world, it will last you donkey's years. Also bear in mind that DDR5 will be new and new RAM always sucks at first, so you could be better off with mature DDR4.

A 5950X and (for example) the new Crosshair VIII Dark Hero would be a mental setup that would last you for many, many years.

 

[deuse]

Define "next mobo". There are refreshes of X570 coming for Zen 3, but anything after this is likely to be a new socket.

I didn't say "Next Mobo"

 

[BUDFORCE]

Thats a pointless question. if Money isn't a factor then there is literally NO reason to pick the 5800x. But money is a factor. Always.

Well not really, as there is talks of added latency across the 2 sets of 6 cores over a single 8, higher base clock speed of the 8 and also factoring in how much use the added cores will provide (or not).

 

[LePhuronn]

I didn't say "Next Mobo"

Yeah you did, because my ability to read is truly fantastic and I never make a mistake ever

 

[The Old School Gamer]

 

[pBay]

Do we know yet if the 5800x is 1 chiplet of 8 cores, or 2 chiplets of 4? Just wondered if they were touting the 5900x as the flagship because of that and that the 5800x may still have some ccx latency.

 

[The Old School Gamer]

Highly unlikely it will be 4 cores over 2 chiplet's.

As the whole point of the Zen 3 architecture is the 8 cores share the entire L3 cache pool to reduce the latency.

I think they will just disable 2 cores for the 5600X, and 2 cores per chiplet for the 5900X.

That way they only need to have and bin 6 and 8 core chiplet's that can be used across the range.
Which makes sense.

As Intel once implied, they just have to glue the processor together then lol.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I really didn't expect my 3900x to be so outdated so quickly. (Only got mine in January). Still it's good to be able to just replace the CPU when I fancy an upgrade without having to junk my motherboard, unlike some other CPU manufacturers I could mention.

The Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 9 3900 non-X are significantly cheaper per core than the current Zen3 CPUs. So in the end you haven't gone wrong with what you have,and got over 9 months of usage so far!

 

[danlightbulb]

Will there be a 5700X in the mid $300's price point do you think?

 

[Twinz]

Will there be a 5700X in the mid $300's price point do you think?

I think prices will come down one way or another. They are just too overpriced now out of the gate.

 

[JediFragger]

I think prices will come down one way or another. They are just too overpriced now out of the gate.

The 5600X is a little hard to swallow at £290ish, seems a bit high for a 6c/12t?

 

[SupraWez]

The 5600X is a little hard to swallow at £290ish, seems a bit high for a 6c/12t?

Sub £300 for 6C/12T on a desktop, maybe I’m crazy or getting old but to me that is crazy value lol

 

[ljt]

Sub £300 for 6C/12T on a desktop, maybe I’m crazy or getting old but to me that is crazy value lol

We've had them since first gen ryzen (1600 then 2600 then 3600) So no £280/£299 for a 6c/12t CPU is not crazy value

 

[beany_bot]

I think prices will come down one way or another. They are just too overpriced now out of the gate.

I have to admit it doesn't bode well for AMD "rescuing" GPU prices if they can compete at the high end.

 

[The_Arbiter]

And that 1600af elusive cpu which was sub £100

 

[BS Dave]

Sub £300 for 6C/12T on a desktop, maybe I’m crazy or getting old but to me that is crazy value lol

x99 5820k was less than £300 years ago edit 2014

 

[Purgatory]

x99 5820k was less than £300 years ago edit 2014

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...5820k-processor-15m-cache-up-to-3-60-ghz.html

• Recommended Customer Price$389.00 - $396.00

Add 20% VAT and your prices are way off ... I think people forgot what 5820k's cost

5930k

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...5930k-processor-15m-cache-up-to-3-70-ghz.html

• Recommended Customer Price$583.00 - $594.00

I remember what I paid for my 5930K it was £600 ..