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fx1 said:
It has release now just like the Strix OC which also released and both cards right now are vapourware. There are hundreds of orders on Strix and not a single card has landed even in reviewers hands let alone customers.
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Yeah, this time around - no reviews... Every card to a customer ! Seen how the TUF and Gaming OC work.. just knock 5-10c off and few dB and your sorted .

Amd are just as bad !!!!!

It was 3/5 months before vendors were able to release their own PCB versions / custom cooling. All had to sell reference cards for Fury, Vega, Navi and Polaris .

Have a feeling too this will be the same . Priority to xfx/sapph etc for being AMD partners only
 
10 or 11 were shipped, the rest were cancelled orders. 12th in que said hes now 1st in que. Every place above that dropped by min 11 places up to i think someone said 18? So atleast 7 cancellations maybe 8
 
The problem is there are loads of retailers waiting for stock in the UK. So your real queue position is likely in the thousands. Each retailer is unlikely to get a delivery of each model each week. Especially the more exotic models. Those factories are producing for the global market. Aurus and Strix are going to be some of the worst available models. Especially from OCUK because they opened preorders during the rush.
 
Everyshop has its custom. Just because OCUK has pre-order up as soon as, people get free delivery with scan via other forums or like local shops like Justin etc . People in US do local shops as their local is double the size of our big resellers .

Is what it is , Strix and Aorus are binned and better designed and took more time to design, produce and get out the door . Covid and huge demand, guessing from gtx 9** owners have driven it up, along with some stunning games being released.

Hopefully those that ordered now, will miss Chinese New year rather then those that are going to wait till next year . Again Factories shut shop for 2 weeks in Feb .
 
My biggest issue is my Xtreme order (due to my position in the queue) basically puts me at the earliest getting it in Dec but thats assuming awesome delivery of units which is doubtful. Now we learn that its probable that Nvidia are going to launch 20Gb version around Dec probably to have their "flagship" not be down on VRAM compared to AMDs 16Gb. So I'll be put into a position that means I'm in a queue for the top of the line 10Gb model while orders for the 20Gb are probably coming online. Since I will (after a few upgrades, this card being one of them) game exclusively at 4K I'm not going to be sitting waiting for the £900 inferior card. I'll be jumping queue to the "super" or whatever name they give that model. Then waiting a god awful long time in a new queue with all the 2nd wave of buyers who held off with the 3080 due to the 20Gb coming. It just leaves a bad taste tbh. If AMD is competitive and their top of the line XTX card is pretty close to 3080 then I will jump to the new 16 core CPU and XTX card. My 3900X CPU is not too shabby but I'll take the upgrade and move back to AMD for at least 1 generation.
 
I am back with an update on the Dual BIOS for the 3080 Master. The BIOS is changed by a tiny switch on the PCB, if the card is flat or vertically the switch is easily accessible I haven't seen much information other than a website just stating that the fans spin quieter in Silent, so I did a bit of testing today using Furmark as it seems to be the benchmark that pushes the temps the highest for longest, as in game benchmarks run quite quickly.

Settings were 1440p, fullscreen with 8x MSAA. To measure noise I only have my apple watch, so I gathered noise from right up close to the GPU and then also where I'm sat which is about 2ft away from the actual PC.

As a side note, my card is facing vertically and I also smashed the tempered glass on my case yesterday, so these temps and noise levels were taken with the side panel off. I don't have a thermostat, but the temp on my weather app shows a chill 9c in sunny Stoke-on-Trent.

Tests for both were ran for 10 minutes with the noise and temps taken after this time.

Silent BIOS setting
1965mhz boost clock speed for the majority.
Peaked briefly at 1980mhz
65-66c temps.
46db up close.
36db ambient (roughly 2ft away).

OC BIOS Setting
1980mhz boost clock speed for the majority.
Peaked at 1995mhz (I noticed it jump to 1995mhz a few times)
59-60c temps.
50db up close.
37db ambient(roughly 2ft away).

The main things I see in these is the slightly higher clock speeds and the little difference in noise from them. I did notice that the silent didn't start the fans spinning until around 63c. Personally I will keep mine on the OC as I have noticed in Forza that it has jumped over 2000mhz in the benchmark and the noise levels aren't that much different. There is a slight coil whine or hum on the OC, not sure if that's actual coil whine or coming from the fans spinning faster.

Let me know if you want anymore information from this.
 
fx1 said:
It has release now just like the Strix OC which also released and both cards right now are vapourware. There are hundreds of orders on Strix and not a single card has landed even in reviewers hands let alone customers.
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It hasn't though. It's available for pre-order and Gigabyte/Aorus have communicated that the card is yet to be released:
The Xtreme simply doesn't release until next week at the earliest. Pre-order and "release" are not the same thing, especially when the manufacturer has been very open about the fact that the cards are still in production.

The official "release", when cards ship for the first time, isn't until next week, and that is assuming that there aren't any delays.
 
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Helton Leal said:
How did you come up with that info?

And this info?

Sorry but it feels like you're talking out of your ass, why is it WORST than the other re/etailers because it opened pre-orders "during" rush?
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Because the chips are binned and the Strix takes 144 hours to make each card. So their numbers are going to be lower than the TUF model.

You cant buy the extreme anywhere other than OCUK on preorder which means the queue on the card is the longest where other retailers there is no queue and that means when they list it you will likely be much further ahead.

Use your brains instead of "talking out your ass"
 
fx1 said:
Because the chips are binned and the Strix takes 144 hours to make each card. So their numbers are going to be lower than the TUF model.

You cant buy the extreme anywhere other than OCUK on preorder which means the queue on the card is the longest where other retailers there is no queue and that means when they list it you will likely be much further ahead.

Use your brains instead of "talking out your ass"
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Funny you say this where everywhere they are showing the card as available but when you buy they message you saying they will wait for re-stock to send you, which is, in theory, the same ******* **** as pre-order, they even take your money upfront. Will not list here. 144 hours to make each card doesn't mean they can't parallelize the process.

I've done enough talk. I would like to see more data, less "I know better".
 
fx1 said:
It has release now just like the Strix OC which also released and both cards right now are vapourware. There are hundreds of orders on Strix and not a single card has landed even in reviewers hands let alone customers.
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No it has not releaed now. Only the master has, not the xtreme.
 
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fx1 said:
Because the chips are binned and the Strix takes 144 hours to make each card. So their numbers are going to be lower than the TUF model.

You cant buy the extreme anywhere other than OCUK on preorder which means the queue on the card is the longest where other retailers there is no queue and that means when they list it you will likely be much further ahead.

Use your brains instead of "talking out your ass"
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144 hours to make each card? Do they have umpalumpas putting each of the billions of transistors on the die by hand? Or are you being a touch dramatic and need a time out?
 
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Maybe you should read what ASUS said moron.
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You mean this?
Top-shelf capacitors, chokes and MOSFETs are selected to effortlessly delivery hundreds of watts at a milliseconds notice ensuring incredible performance. They’re then soldered to the PCB using our advanced Auto-Extreme manufacturing process. This automated production removes human error and smooth joints on the PCB, ensuring each card meets our rigorous specifications during the 144-hour validation trial.

If this is what you mean, are you sure you know the 144-hour validation trial is per card? Do you have further detail about this process? Or you're just assuming you know, as you've been doing all along in the previous posts? It could be sample from the same batch that goes through this process and then they bin the batch based on that sample. Stop pretending you know, the more you say you know, the more I know you don't.
 
While i don't know their manufacturing process. I do find it very hard to believe they're spending 144 hours per card. They would probbaly spend 144 on each card type, then manufacture based off the results?
 
Helton Leal said:
You mean this?
Top-shelf capacitors, chokes and MOSFETs are selected to effortlessly delivery hundreds of watts at a milliseconds notice ensuring incredible performance. They’re then soldered to the PCB using our advanced Auto-Extreme manufacturing process. This automated production removes human error and smooth joints on the PCB, ensuring each card meets our rigorous specifications during the 144-hour validation trial.

If this is what you mean, are you sure you know the 144-hour validation trial is per card? Do you have further detail about this process? Or you're just assuming you know, as you've been doing all along in the previous posts? It could be sample from the same batch that goes through this process and then they bin the batch based on that sample. Stop pretending you know, the more you say you know, the more I know you don't.
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Given this is the Strix OC which comes with a high factory overclock they have to test the stability. Asus said it takes 144 hours to make a card from the moment they get the GPU. You cant bin a batch based on one GPU. How would that work? Each chip is different. The strix OC has to to have the highest bins which means the most validation and highest silicon quality.

Obviously this is parallel but there will be a capacity as well as a limited number of chips which meet specification.

Having owned, Kingpin, Aurus Extreme and Lightning cards i can tell you that the numbers are always low compared to the cheaper models. Often limited production runs too.

But i must be wrong because we are swimming in Strix, Exreme's and Kingpins..... Oh wait.....
 
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