NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

Rroff · 15 Oct 2020 at 20:16

Th0nt said:
I was referring to your comment you made about Rroff not if you were right!

My point was - they don't exactly have a great track record with their "exclusive" leaks - it would be different if they at least now and again got new information right before it broke elsewhere by leakers with actual credibility.

gpuerrilla · 15 Oct 2020 at 20:19

Rroff said:
My point was - they don't exactly have a great track record with their "exclusive" leaks - it would be different if they at least now and again got new information right before it broke elsewhere by leakers with actual credibility.

The RGT guy did get the infinity cache right. MLID did get the nvidia milking AIBs and price jacking right. I dont believe everything they say but you cant debunk all they do as it was correct?

Rroff · 15 Oct 2020 at 20:58

Th0nt said:
The RGT guy did get the infinity cache right. MLID did get the nvidia milking AIBs and price jacking right. I dont believe everything they say but you cant debunk all they do as it was correct?

The whole great play thing is just reading an interpretation into the circumstances, which some people have taken as fact because it is what they want to believe, and it is pretty much a given there would be shortages and price gouging given nVidia's last few launches - can't really give much credit to that.

AFAIK the so called infinity cache stuff is yet to be proved is even related to the coming GPUs? Aside from the patent there is very little info.

gpuerrilla · 15 Oct 2020 at 21:23

Rroff said:
AFAIK the so called infinity cache stuff is yet to be proved is even related to the coming GPUs? Aside from the patent there is very little info.

I was meaning he got the name exact before any others knew about it and its in the patent name.

HRL · 16 Oct 2020 at 08:41

Richdog said:
Wow, Linus tested 3090 SLI and it caused a power spike interruption and reboot on a 1000w Seasonic PSU.

Unsurprising really. Already heard of 450W spikes on a single 3090, 900W doesn’t leave much in the tank for everything else now, does it.

Greebo · 16 Oct 2020 at 08:50

HRL said:
Unsurprising really. Already heard of 450W spikes on a single 3090, 900W doesn’t leave much in the tank for everything else now, does it.

Yep and depending what cpu you are using. My power hungry 9980xe overclocked to 4.7Ghz pulls 562W by itself. Add two 3090s and overclocking them as well and you can easily go past 1600W.

You need a good 2kw supply to be sure

Woodsta888 · 16 Oct 2020 at 09:04

Richdog said:
Wow, Linus tested 3090 SLI and it caused a power spike interruption and reboot on a 1000w Seasonic PSU.

Conclusion: what we all already know... you have to be nuts and/or lacking in common sense to spend £3200 on 2x 3090 SLI.

Hardly any games support it and it has noticeable fps stutters and dips. It's a dead end.

JUst need to spend all that wonga and wait for some SLi profiles

. Same with spending on a 48 inch OLED that still cant do 4k 120hz that people been waiting for firmware & drivers since the 3000 series launched :eek:

Joeyuk · 16 Oct 2020 at 14:11

Given up on the evga step up, literally no movement in Europe and they have only done the 1st hour or so in the states. Going to return the card to the rainforest and wait for better stock to come.

Grim5 · 20 Oct 2020 at 20:43

Nvidia announces that 12 games are launching with RTX Ray Tracing and DLSS before the end of this year with most out in October and November

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-announc...rtly-including-mount-and-blade-ii-bannerlord/

Richdog · 20 Oct 2020 at 20:59

Grim5 said:
Nvidia announces that 12 games are launching with RTX Ray Tracing and DLSS before the end of this year with most out in October and November

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-announc...rtly-including-mount-and-blade-ii-bannerlord/

It says the games will have RT and/or DLSS, not that all will have RT and DLSS.

Bannerlord and Edge of Eternity seems to be only getting DLSS, not RT.

Kaapstad · 20 Oct 2020 at 21:09

Grim5 said:
Nvidia announces that 12 games are launching with RTX Ray Tracing and DLSS before the end of this year with most out in October and November

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-announc...rtly-including-mount-and-blade-ii-bannerlord/

2 years on from Turing launch and NVidia are making a big thing about just 12 games launching with Ray Tracing/DLSS.

Hopefully by the time Hopper launches there will be a lot more games using the tech.

I also don't think Ampere is up to the job of running fully enabled Ray Tracing, it is better than Turing but still has a way to go. When Hopper arrives in 2 or 3 years time I think the tech will really start to perform.

gpuerrilla · 20 Oct 2020 at 21:14

Kaapstad said:
I also don't think Ampere is up to the job of running fully enabled Ray Tracing, it is better than Turing but still has a way to go. When Hopper arrives in 2 or 3 years time I think the tech will really start to perform.

You were saying @Rroff ?

Rroff · 20 Oct 2020 at 21:15

Th0nt said:
You were saying @Rroff ?

I'm gonna have to get my hands on a Ampere card to show its true potential :s

I can't even record it at any quality settings worth a **** on my 1070 sadly.

TNA · 20 Oct 2020 at 21:18

Kaapstad said:
2 years on from Turing launch and NVidia are making a big thing about just 12 games launching with Ray Tracing/DLSS.

Hopefully by the time Hopper launches there will be a lot more games using the tech.

I also don't think Ampere is up to the job of running fully enabled Ray Tracing, it is better than Turing but still has a way to go. When Hopper arrives in 2 or 3 years time I think the tech will really start to perform.

Yeah, nvidia did a poor job of getting out RTX games so far. Hopefully it will be good on Cyberpunk.

Kaapstad · 20 Oct 2020 at 21:30

Th0nt said:
You were saying @Rroff ?

It's interesting looking at the Port Royal bench which is all about Ray Tracing and runs @1440p.

The best 3090 score is 68fps.

Even my RTX Titans in SLI can only mange just under 93fps.

This is a very long way short of keeping a 144htz 2160p monitor happy.

I know Port Royal is just a benchmark and not a game but it does show us where we are with Ray Tracing.

Joxeon · 20 Oct 2020 at 21:38

Kaapstad said:
It's interesting looking at the Port Royal bench which is all about Ray Tracing and runs @1440p.

The best 3090 score is 68fps.

Even my RTX Titans in SLI can only mange just under 93fps.

This is a very long way short of keeping a 144htz 2160p monitor happy.

I know Port Royal is just a benchmark and not a game but it does show us where we are with Ray Tracing.

RT has hardly improved at all this generation, most the RT FPS gains is just from the rasterisation.

Grim5 · 20 Oct 2020 at 21:42

Joxeon said:
RT has hardly improved at all this generation, most the RT FPS gains is just from the rasterisation.

That's not how it works I would have thought.

If your statement is correct, you're implying that the RTX2000 cards have more than enough Ray Tracing processing power and the bottleneck was the rasterization processing power. Yet path traced games still ran like crap on RTX2000, so I don't think rasterization was the bottleneck and so adding extra rasterization performance to RTX3000 wouldn't have much affect on the framerate if you kept the same RT cores from RTX2000

Grim5 · 20 Oct 2020 at 21:44

Kaapstad said:
It's interesting looking at the Port Royal bench which is all about Ray Tracing and runs @1440p.

The best 3090 score is 68fps.

Even my RTX Titans in SLI can only mange just under 93fps.

This is a very long way short of keeping a 144htz 2160p monitor happy.

I know Port Royal is just a benchmark and not a game but it does show us where we are with Ray Tracing.

Actually the highest single 3090 score is 81fps https://www.3dmark.com/pr/417512

And highest 3090 SLI score is 154fps https://www.3dmark.com/pr/417649

opethdisciple · 20 Oct 2020 at 21:48

TNA said:
Yeah, nvidia did a poor job of getting out RTX games so far. Hopefully it will be good on Cyberpunk.

Once it goes mainstream on the consoles uptake should accelerate.

Kaapstad · 20 Oct 2020 at 21:54

Grim5 said:
Actually the highest single 3090 score is 81fps https://www.3dmark.com/pr/417512

And highest 3090 SLI score is 154fps https://www.3dmark.com/pr/417649

Those don't count as you can not use LN2 24/7.

I was also referring to the OcUK Port Royal bench thread.

Just for a bit of fun lets pretend that we could use LN2 24/7 on a gaming computer.

If you convert that 3090 SLI score to 2160p it would be roughly 75fps, this would be an epic failure on a 120htz monitor.