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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

Do you guys think its worth cancelling order and waiting for 7nm? I've ordered a asus tuf 3090 OC and am currently in queue position 15 so chances are I may get this before they move to 7nm. Will there be a significant increase in performance on 7nm over 8nm or should I just keep my queue position and the chance to have the 3090 this side of Christmas?
 
No one knows the precise details behind 7nm but the most likely and expected outcome right now is that'll be used for the refresh range which will probably be some kind of 3080 Super. But I wouldn't expect them until much later next year. 7nm is unlikely to make any real difference, other than to availability at launch. If you should cancel really has more to do with how desperate are you for an upgrade, if you want one soon then stick in the pre order queue. If you can hold out until Q2-Q4 next year then you could wait for the refresh.
 
Th0nt said:
Or reworded to: The best part of Ampere is its costing the same as what it should have done, but Im really excited as it feels like its a bargain.. :p
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Well that is obvious (to me anyway) but the problem with it is it would not allow me cheekily pull his leg ;)

It certainly does not feel like a bargain to me. For that it would have to be under £500.
 
Or they just put it out so that all of those waiting will buy now instead of waiting only to then upgrade again later when the 20GB magically appears.
 
PrincessFrosty said:
No one knows the precise details behind 7nm but the most likely and expected outcome right now is that'll be used for the refresh range which will probably be some kind of 3080 Super. But I wouldn't expect them until much later next year. 7nm is unlikely to make any real difference, other than to availability at launch. If you should cancel really has more to do with how desperate are you for an upgrade, if you want one soon then stick in the pre order queue. If you can hold out until Q2-Q4 next year then you could wait for the refresh.
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Thank you, think i'll just keep my queue position and stick with what's ordered then, i'm not to bothered if there isn't going to be a significant increase in performance and don't want to wait for a refresh if it only offers a few more fps over 8nm and I really want the upgrade from 1080ti to power the reverb g2
 
Satchfanuk said:
Must have decided to save those memory chips for the massive 6GB going onto the RTX3060 :p

This decision is surely down to lack of dies to make the GPUs or because they know these won't win back the performance crown from AMD :D
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Or Nvidia just found out AMD dont have the fastest Navi 21 that is slower and cheaper than RTX 3080 10GB and Nvidia decided they dont need to launch RTX 3080 20GB for £100 extra.
 
Satchfanuk said:
Must have decided to save those memory chips for the massive 6GB going onto the RTX3060 :p

This decision is surely down to lack of dies to make the GPUs or because they know these won't win back the performance crown from AMD :D
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Well the thread posing the question if 10Gb is enough for a 3080 has demonstrably shown that yes, it's fine. Not just for all games now but that very demanding games with future proofed performance run out of GPU horsepower long before they get close to 10Gb of vRAM usage. You do not need >10Gb for gaming on a 3080 class GPU. And if what you need is a lot of vRAM for prosumer needs like design or rendering then just get the 3090.

The AMD cards have already been rumoured to be down in the 10-12Gb range, I don't know why this weird demand for 16-20Gb of vRAM for gaming cards keeps coming back. "Future proofing" doesn't work, the GPU is a bottleneck to performance.

Delays in 3080 cards is almost certainly due to the Samsung 8nm fab, not memory.
 
PrincessFrosty said:
Well the thread posing the question if 10Gb is enough for a 3080 has demonstrably shown that yes, it's fine. Not just for all games now but that very demanding games with future proofed performance run out of GPU horsepower long before they get close to 10Gb of vRAM usage. You do not need >10Gb for gaming on a 3080 class GPU. And if what you need is a lot of vRAM for prosumer needs like design or rendering then just get the 3090.

The AMD cards have already been rumoured to be down in the 10-12Gb range, I don't know why this weird demand for 16-20Gb of vRAM for gaming cards keeps coming back. "Future proofing" doesn't work, the GPU is a bottleneck to performance.

Delays in 3080 cards is almost certainly due to the Samsung 8nm fab, not memory.
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Maybe AMD's version of DLSS uses many cached frames.
 
PrincessFrosty said:
Well the thread posing the question if 10Gb is enough for a 3080 has demonstrably shown that yes, it's fine. Not just for all games now but that very demanding games with future proofed performance run out of GPU horsepower long before they get close to 10Gb of vRAM usage. You do not need >10Gb for gaming on a 3080 class GPU. And if what you need is a lot of vRAM for prosumer needs like design or rendering then just get the 3090.

The AMD cards have already been rumoured to be down in the 10-12Gb range, I don't know why this weird demand for 16-20Gb of vRAM for gaming cards keeps coming back. "Future proofing" doesn't work, the GPU is a bottleneck to performance.

Delays in 3080 cards is almost certainly due to the Samsung 8nm fab, not memory.
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Agreed. It very likely will be fine for a long while yet. 8k doesn't even push the vram on the 3080 so 20GB IMO would be wasted for just gaming.

To actually push over VRAM limit takes a lot of doing. Don't think i've ever seen it happen. Not unless you enjoy playing at single digit fps anyway :p
 
Andrei23 said:
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I just watched this video prior to coming on the forum, and am now informed. I was looking to post about it in case anyone missed it (also covered in a Linus video). I too originally thought the 3080 was like the 2080 successor, but turns out it's all marketing since the specs and performance speaks for itself, but the price corresponds to the card tier above. I guess it's clever marketing, when people think they're getting a deal, but are not.

Thinking about it, historically Nvidia have released Titan and Ti type cards later in the lifecycle, rather than on release.

People can do what they like with their money, but this is definitely crafty of Nvidia.
 
So Nvidia is cancelling some un-released Ampere cards.

I wonder if its because AMD is too fast and Nvidia will go back to the drawing board to work on shifting Ampere to 7nm TSMC since its clearly a much better node than Samsung garbage 8nm
 
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