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OcUK RX6000 series review thread

i was really hoping for an AMD win here but let's be honest:

- the difference in 1440 performance is negligible (as per the graph showing combined 1440 performance over 9 games)
- the 4k performance is better on the 3080
- the 3080 has dlss and (decent) rtx

IF, and it's a big IF, you can get a 3080 for £50 more than it's the winner here. I guess time will tell whether that's ever going to be possible.

It's great that AMD is competitive though. Also, it's not like I'm personally buying a £600 graphics card. The mid range offerings will decide who I go with and, with that in mind, I'll be waiting for AMDs "DLSS" offering and seeing how it turns out. I have an x570 board so the AMD ecosystem is tempting, but if NVidia manage their own comparable SAM system then that's mitigated too..
 
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Results this time round vary massively between reviewers depending on the games they use and their test bench. It's quite hard to actually gauge where performance is as my take away was below 4K AMD is comfortably ahead and at 4K nVidia wins overall by a fairly slim margin. Add to that the fact that nVidia seemingly never intended for cards to hit their MSRP makes the AMD offering pretty compelling.
I'll still be waiting until early next year before considering an upgrade though.
 
Since I have just switched to a 3440x1440 display from 4k the 6800xt would have been ideal. In the newer games I am wanting to play (Valhalla & Dirt 5) it has strong wins. Older games I play like R6S, Stellaris & Insurgency it is kinda irrelevant what I go with because 6800xt or 3080FE would be overkill for them. It seems reviewers are getting rather different numbers though so hard to judge but it does seem at 1080p and 1440p newer releases AMD take the wins more and at larger margins but the 3080 is more consistent through all.

I am not worried about Ray Tracing at moment because it will be at least another generation of GPU's before it becomes 100% mainstream in my view once consoles have had time to set in with new releases and the likes. If I had managed to pick up a 3080FE at the £649 price point I would have been a happy chappy. I didn't try because I didn't expect stock to be so bad for so long. The 6800xt is probably the better card for me at moment but only if could have picked it up for £599 or less.

With that my main reason to upgrade is not being able to get a waterblock for the current 5700xt GPU I am running (thanks @humbug for the card though ;)). Otherwise pairing that with a current gen 3900 or 3950 would have done me this gen and then do a full upgrade next GPU drop with a 5000 series CPU.
 
Kamakazie! said:
Results this time round vary massively between reviewers depending on the games they use and their test bench. It's quite hard to actually gauge where performance is as my take away was below 4K AMD is comfortably ahead and at 4K nVidia wins overall by a fairly slim margin. Add to that the fact that nVidia seemingly never intended for cards to hit their MSRP makes the AMD offering pretty compelling.
I'll still be waiting until early next year before considering an upgrade though.
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If you look at performance comparisons in recent games, it swings AMDs way. If you look at a lot of older titles, it swings the other way. Be interesting to see what happens going forward.
 
LtMatt said:
If you look at performance comparisons in recent games, it swings AMDs way. If you look at a lot of older titles, it swings the other way. Be interesting to see what happens going forward.
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Not at 4k it doesn't, at 1080p its stonking, plus it seems they are not great overclockers either. I think its great AMD have a competitive card, I expect over time the drivers will improve performance as will Nvidia of course. and if Nvidia release a driver using direct system memory access they will gain another small performance gain, Plus its big advantage in RT along with DLS of course.
will be interesting to see how the 6900xt gets on. Another problem for AMD is the silly launch with limited stock. people will see this as another NV 3000 launch and know it will be a while before they can get hold of one, in the meantime NV stock is growing daily now. 3090's available and in stock and if the 6900xt is anything like the 6800xt
it will be even more scarce and difficult to buy. and no doubt will be scalped on release.

AMD needed to get this right at launch and its another paper launch with limited stock on release. much like the 5000 series CPU's people still waiting for ETA's even 15 days after release. its a NV launch on both products. AMD dropped the ball again!
 
Curlyriff said:
Since I have just switched to a 3440x1440 display from 4k the 6800xt would have been ideal.
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Would it though? I'm guessing you upgrade fairly frequently by the sounds of things, but they're about even at that resolution, and DLSS would help keep the frames up in newer titles that come out... or at least that's how I'm looking at it ... but maybe we see things differently based on how long we expect to be using bits.
 
Nabeshogun said:
Would it though? I'm guessing you upgrade fairly frequently by the sounds of things, but they're about even at that resolution, and DLSS would help keep the frames up in newer titles that come out... or at least that's how I'm looking at it ... but maybe we see things differently based on how long we expect to be using bits.
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I haven't upgraded in almost 7 years bar the GPU from 980 to 5700xt and that is because Humbug did an awesome deal with me for it :) The games I mostly want to play or play seem to show much better performance for the AMD gpu. Valhalla and Grid 5 are on top of my list at moment. I also play R6S a lot still although kinda irrelevant bearing the FPS both achieve. Not to mention Gofall and Death Stranding which am also keen to play. With that too AMD working on their equivalent to DLSS will be interesting because even if that is a year out then it would do similar with keeping up in frames with newer titles as well.
 
Was hoping these reviews would help me decide what to do
I've read quite a few 6800XT reviews and feel close to cancelling my Gigabyte 3080 xtreme. I only have a 1440p monitor, but use VR quite a bit + may get the new Reverb G2 so high res. < 11mS frame time is important.
Hard to justify the £900 3080 even more now.
I guess it'll be a novelty to try out RT for a bit and at 1440p the 6800XT RT is probably good enough. Also have a PS5 coming today so I'm not REALLY desperate right now for either.
 
Curlyriff said:
With that too AMD working on their equivalent to DLSS will be interesting because even if that is a year out then it would do similar with keeping up in frames with newer titles as well.
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It will basically be the same as DLSS because Nvidia worked with MS with DLSS so all the instructions are part of DirectML. Almost all Direct X titles that have DLSS options will work with AMD cards as well (confirmed by Nvidia), it's an open standard. The only time AMD will lack support is with Vulkan. There was no open standard to work with so Nvidia created their own DLSS implementation for Vulkan games.

However, with Nvidia cards the DLSS work is offloaded onto the Tensor cores. AMD do not have a separate rendering path so all the DLSS (DirectML) work will be done in the pipeline, the same as RT. So it is highly unlikely AMD's implementation will see the same performance uplift that Nvidia sees. It should get a boost, just not as much. If the pipeline is already straining to render the game + RT, how much is left for the DirectML calculations?
 
Zernath said:
They won't though, will they. It's painfully obvious that they were not at all prepared for this release, and probably won't be for many, many months.
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That doesn't appear to be what's going on to me. OcUK are saying that they won't be getting any more stock of the reference design. Not that there's a supply problem or that it'll be a while before they get more stock. Just that there plain won't be any more. It seems like AMD never planned to produce more than a few thousand of these things and everything's gone into the partner cards instead. Although quite why they'd decide to press ahead with the launch yesterday anyway after seeing the reaction to Ampere and its shortages is an entirely different mystery.
 
I've been reading about 3080 vs 6800xt a lot and have gotten really confused, so I compiled a few charts from every review out there. Basically it confirms to me that the reason nobody can agree is because the reviewers also don't agree about which actually performs better or by how much.

I don't think that 6800xt actually performs better in modern games, a few ray tracing titles coming up seem to be really nicely optimized though.

https://imgur.com/a/lnAms2Q
 
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