if the rumours are to be believed would be 6X, would not make sense to go slower on the flagship gaming card vs the 3080. However it looks to use the slightly lower clocked 3080s memory speed and smaller bus of the 3080 resulting the same bandwidth as the 3080 rather then 3090. All else equal that will be why you will see a very tiny performance deficit to the 3090, order of 1%-2% I expect in benchmarks and likely less in games.
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ASUS confirms ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 3080 Ti graphics card with 20GB memory
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if the rumours are to be believed would be 6X, would not make sense to go slower on the flagship gaming card vs the 3080. However it looks to use the slightly lower clocked 3080s memory speed and smaller bus of the 3080 resulting the same bandwidth as the 3080 rather then 3090. All else equal that will be why you will see a very tiny performance deficit to the 3090, order of 1%-2% I expect in benchmarks and likely less in games.
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Hilarious to be honest.
I'm releasing a new card tomorrow by the way folks, it's a NX7990, far better than what ATI and Nvidia are offering.
Limited quantities though guys and gals, there's a pandemic going on after all! But trust me, it's great
I'm releasing a new card tomorrow by the way folks, it's a NX7990, far better than what ATI and Nvidia are offering.
Limited quantities though guys and gals, there's a pandemic going on after all! But trust me, it's great
Ironic, considering you're planning on buying an ASUS AIO 6900xt that will probably have an RRP around $1500usd
Big Navi supply is very bad, worse than Ampere by quite some margin. MSI has decided that unlike Ampere where it has multiple models, for Big Navi it is cancelling all models except for the game x trio because long term AMD is unable to give them enough GPU die's to make multiple models cost efficient. So for those AIB who still decide to make special models like an AIO Strix - they have to charge a massive premium because they can probably only produce 200 of these cards a month for the next 6 months
Been using 24GB cards for a couple of years (RTX Titans and 3090s) and the one thing that is obvious when doing so is the rarity of seeing more than 10GB memory needed so yes a 20GB 3080 Ti is a waste when people may want to spend money on other parts of their setup.
My 3090 crawls along at 18fps in Cyberpunk 2077, even if I could get SLI working the most I would get is 36fps and don't even mention DLSS, this can be an unrunable disaster when using SLI (So I keep getting reminded in SOTTR).
As to me buying an Asus Strix 6900 XT LC, it is not even relevant. I have very few commitments and PCs are my main interest so it does not matter what I spend on them.
I'd be excited if I could get a card for £1000 that would play today's games at 4K ultra 60fps but even a 3090 in RDR2 and especially MSFS2020 and CP2077 is at nowhere near that level of performance. Anything other than the 3080FE or 6800XT at msrp are really appalling value at the moment. Until we have much faster cards or prices come down very substantially a £1000-£1300 3080ti represents very poor value for money.
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Or £1250/1300 in AiB speak
This. The story of bagging a 3080 only to side-upgrade to a Ti makes little sense when you could have bought a 3090FE from release and had full fat for ~4+ months. If you think a ROG strix is going to be £1k you are in fairy land. If its priced at the same point as the 3090FE just read what I said a sentence back.
Dave gonna enjoy reading your feedback when/if you can source one (in 2021 sometime)!
Everything is good value compared to a 3090
Dunno what your on about mate... *eyes*
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Its a great point to highlight mate, and at least you have the t-shirts so to speak! I think a good chunk of us would have bought the 3080 if they were available or at/near MSRP. Most got fed up with the situation and caved as the 3090's were easier to checkout in the shopping cart with.
However I draw the line with the logic of some people on here. How can anyone slate the prices of any component when they buy a RoG strix version of it? They are the most upmarked items you can buy and generally not worth the extra. Its a bit rich, just look at the 3070s that released, supposed to be £469 yet the strix version of this card was near the 3080... that's not just madness its senseless.
You're just cherry picking, it can run many of today's games at above 4k 60fps, so you picked unoptimized or extraordinarily demanding titles
I haven't tested rdr2 or cp2077 myself but the 3090 in MsFS isn't what I'd call not even close - it still gets over 50fps at max settings and in any case any one who's played MSFS will know that anything over 40fps is great, this game doesn't need high refresh rate, anything over 40 feels smooth
What monitor did you upgrade to Kaap? I remember you were still using a 60Hz 4k screen to play games on with your Titan RTX, surely you've upgraded now that you have SLI 3090?
I'm referring to games I might actually WANT to play or do play. 'Many' of today's games isn't good enough for me but if you're easily bought, or satisfied or buy into the hype all power to you. I remember you telling me I was accusing CD Project of lying in their CP 2077 recommended specs for 4K and bragging how you'd be playing 4K ultra 60+fps with RT on your 3090. How's that working out for you? I assume you have trackIR for MSFS2020 and if you do you'll realise that panning in flight can be nausea inducing at much less than 60fps. Yes it's playable, many games are playable at 4K ultra at less than 60fps but for the money I'd expect more. I'm glad you're happy with your purchase but I'm pretty sure I'd have been disappointed if I were you. RDR2 supports mGPU with vulcan so 3090 SLI does work which at 4K ultra delivers outstanding results at an equally outstanding price, my days of spending £2600 or more on GPUs are over but that's what I'd need to pay for the level of performance I want in RDR2 assuming the 3080ti comes in at £1300.
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I find people without a 3080/3090 desperately try and convince themselves, often quite pathetically so, that 4K 60 is not possible in any game. I don't understand this, do these people also convince themselves that an expensive, luxurious car isn't more fun to drive than a 5 year old hatchback, just because it can't fit into grandma's drive?
Obviously there are games were you need to turn down some settings, though not that many. Ignoring badly optimized/beta games like Cyberpunk and MS2020, as they run terribly regardless of resolution.
Hopefully it should relieve some pressure on the 3080.
To me the entire point of the 3080 is that it's best used with hi res screens, which of course is where the 3080 hits criticism that it doesn't really have enough memory.
The only problem is the scalpers will probably jump on the 3080ti as soon as it comes out.
To me the entire point of the 3080 is that it's best used with hi res screens, which of course is where the 3080 hits criticism that it doesn't really have enough memory.
The only problem is the scalpers will probably jump on the 3080ti as soon as it comes out.
Thing is I have a 144Hz monitor and my humble 2070S can't even get close to that figure on most games. Some, even turning the settings down I can't even reach a consistent 60fps. I knew the 2070S was under-powered when I bought it and was just waiting for the 3000 series. I mean it doesn't matter whether a game is badly optimised or not, if it plays badly then I am going to want a card that can deal with it.
I am still using my 60htz 2160p monitor but I keep looking out for a new one.
I have got a couple of 3090s, an NVLink, a Motherboard with the right spacing and a 10980XE I could put in it, unfortunately they are all in different places and with all the Xmas spirit about (Bacardi mostly) it is very difficult getting motivated to do anything.
I have also been thinking about the above that if I do it I should really go the AMD route so I can use PCI-E 4.0 X16/X16 which means a new motherboard and CPU.
One thing I have learned is PCI-E 4.0 X16 gives a massive boost over PCI-E 3.0 X16 when using software with high fps like Unigine Valley.
Here is one I did earlier on my 5950X system with a single 3090.
I don't understand why people go for the Strix version of a 3070, yes they are nice cards but I would rather use the extra money to get something like a FE 3080.
When you get to the 3090s and 6900 XTs it is a different argument as they are the flagship cards and the only way to go better is to go with something like the Strix version. Having said that it is still a lot of extra money for about 2% or 3% extra performance and a slightly quieter cooler card.
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This is the same guy who said 1440p looked awful without taking pixel density into account, guess his bigger 4k screen looks awful too in that case.
He also banged on about 10GB not being enough for 4k and went and bought one anyway, said to buy a last gen card for 1440p as a 3000 series is pointless.
Even the Tech Deals guy on YouTube makes much more sense, Dave just being Dave and always with the condescending attitude.
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Nah, it's the perfect 1440p for now imo (for the new generation of games coming, Cyberpunk being the first one).
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For 1440 both brands offer perfect performance to be fair. Its when either of them mention "4k gaming to the masses" or whatever it was, when clearly that is a very massaged outlook to say the least!
Never mind ray tracing, they still need to pull out a few features to address the grunt required on the titles that cripple all the cards just running regular 4k rasterised.
There are always games coming out that push the requirements beyond what current high end graphics hardware can do (given some arbitrary expectation, such as "ultra settings, 60 fps at 4K"), and that's a feature, not a bug. Basically that £1000 price point card of today can run 99% of all games available today at 4K 60 fps. For those 1% of games it can't run at these arbitrary settings, all you need to do is to turn down a few settings and/or use VRR for an excellent experience.
Personally I'm more upset when a game doesn't give me the options to further improve graphics beyond what my system can already handle, rather than having to tweak a few settings down from "ultra" to get playable framerates.
MSFS is very much CPU limited by the way.
Im surprised Nvidia didn't go with filling one side of the card with memory chips and maxing the memory bus out like the 3090, 12gb would be fine (for now) for gaming, and the extra memory bandwidth would help the 3080ti gain performance, without having to max out the cuda core count.
Of course im assuming that 384bit bus can use just 12 memory chips, and the 3090 is just double the chips per lane.
Of course im assuming that 384bit bus can use just 12 memory chips, and the 3090 is just double the chips per lane.